Who said I do not have proof? Here is picture proof of my first gains that I got from wearing a extender for about 6-8 hours every day along with some light manual work;
http://www.thundersplace.org/forum/s...ad.php?t=55155
Of course I recommend it. I have explained in detail why...
Like I said, I know it works and have proof of that in the form of my very own before and after pictures that you will find if you click the link I provided.
I have seen very, very little (good) picture proof of gains from any PE-method. My before and after pictures make up one set of seven that is in the thread at thunders place.
I have heard lots of people claim good gains from manual PE and hanging but I have not seen much in the form of picture proof. Want to give me a link to your picture proof where you show your gains that you have made from manual PE?
There is also the picture proof of another thunders place member that has made what seems to be extreme gains from the usage of a extender;
http://www.thundersplace.org/forum/s...ad.php?t=84759
So, let me guess... Your next answer will be along the lines of; "Well, you did not make those gains from the device you are now recommending and plan to sell... Where is your proof from wearing the vac-extender?", and we could go on and on...
Extenders work, I just gave you my own picture proof of that. Lets see your before and afters... Hanging works, I also have picture proof of my self after hanging with a IPR-routine.
I took a starting photo before I started the routine I am now using. I also took a video measurement. It might take me longer then 1 month to gain since I am a veteran but I am sure I will gain since I now can keep my penis extended for 12 hours with no discomfort.
Like I stated before, you are wrong in your assumptions about me.
Tell me more of your experience with extenders and manual work.