[Eddy]

Hey Jon,

I've been doing your routine for over three months, but I see absolutely no gain. What am I doing wrong?

The only thing I do not do all the time is to kegel, other than that I think I cover 95% of your routine. Should I keep doing it or should I just jump to another one?


Thanks,


Ed

[JonPop]

Hey Eddy, some guys are hard gainers. It was over 2 months, doing the same routine before I saw any gains. If you are doing the routine and you feel that your penis is well conditioned, it might be time to go on and do some of the advanced exercises found on these boards. You might want to consider getting the Jelq Device, this is a great tool.

[Eddy]

Thanks Jon, just one more question, how do I know if my penis is well conditioned to move on? I believe that after three months of excersing it with your great routine some progress have taken place in conditioning.

I want to add that sometimes while watching TV or at any other time that I find it possible, I stretch a lot and do the helicopter shakes... sometimes it hurt.


Ed

[JonPop]

PE should not hurt. You are either doing something wrong or using too much force. Back off, slow down.

[Spicoli]

Are the supplements required?

[Larger]

Hi everyone.

First of all, I wanted to thank the creator of this splendid website, because every man has had that one question and desire about their penis. Thanks to you and everyone on this site, we get free access to programs and information required to get the answers and our desired result.

I am gonna go with your program JonPop. I read it and it seems like something I do, when I am a bulk weight-trainer; I workout almost everyday and then take a day or two off, which this seems to mirror for PE. I just started PE about 4 days ago with the basic program offered on this site. Before PE these were my stats:

Flaccid Length 4"
Flaccid Girth 4"
Erect Length 6 2/8"
Erect Girth 4 1/2"

I'm now on the second day doing the JP program and this is where I'm at

Flaccid Length 3 7/8"
Flaccid Girth 4 2/8"
Erect Length 6 3/8"
Erect Girth 4 6/8"

I already have results, and I measured the same way.

I only have a few questions; one is about Post-PE and Pre-PE regarding masturbation and sex. I read in an article that people who ejaculated within 1 hour after PE had less gains then people who didn't. So I haven't climaxed since my first PE workout. Although, and this is a side-note: Kegels work. You can stop yourself from ejaculating. I was at a lake at night on Thursday with this girl and after I pleased her it was my turn. She was giving me oral for close to 2 hours. Could have been the temperature difference or the Kegels, you can decide.

Now for my questions. In your experience, does ejaculation after 1 hour of PE seem to affect the gains? And about the V-Jelq, Is it like you are making a peace-sign with your hand (palm facing away from you, when you are performing the technique should you palms be facing your abdomen or away from you?

Ok, I'm done warming up. Thanks again!

Low LOT, too.

[Hairtrigger]

Welcome figMINT, your question concerning ejaculation can be only be answered by another question. Do you want to climax? If so go ahead. However, I choose not to. I want to focus more on doing the techniques correctly and to improve them to match my needs. If I go through with my routine only looking forward to bust a nut afterward chances are my routine would suffer.

Side note1: If you become so aroused say a 80-90% erection level during your stretches or jelq's you will injure yourself. The only time you sould be this aroused is during Erect Kegels Ballooning or Edging. Which in this case during Edging I would most likely ejaculate because of the need to get as close to the PNR as possible.

Side note2: Imagine what it will be like after six months of Kegels.........


http://www.pegym.com/forums/general-...html#post12232

[Larger]

Thanks Hairtrigger, I feel the same way about it.

I asked that question for more opinions on ejaculation before and after PE. I read, Remek's post about how he thinks it's good, bad, or does nothing for you. I would rather have sex with a girl then with Palmela Handerson.

I have not heard of edging or ballooning before, but I got a chance to try the technique out and am amazed at how kegels really work, even though holding back during emission is more difficult than a kegel. I may practice more, after all, practice makes perfect. I am only going to try it 1-3 times a week, since before PE and my sex life skyrocketed, I used to squeeze one out 4 or more times a day. Which, is probably why I don't have the problem of getting too erect during stretching or jelqing.

I do my reps of 200-300 kegels a day while doing my 3 mile run.

Are you or were you on the JP program?

EDIT: I checked out that posting and a lot more before I asked about the v-jelq. I just wonder if there is a difference between having it between the ring-finger and the middle one vs. the pointer and the middle. Since I have difficulty making that Star Trek sign that I saw a PEer used as an example to check if he was doing them properly.

[ggboy]

Hi everyone. This is my first post at forums & I wish to say thanks to all members for their advices. I have decided to go on with this routine, but I have a problem - privacy. I am currently studying and living in dormitory with two roommates. So I can't spend a hour alone - except while bathing. Also for jelqing is needed a oil which will be very strange ( at least ) if someone see me coming out of bath with that. Currently I am doing streches but cannot hold the 10 sec kegel as I feel my PC is getting tired so when I feel like that i do extra kegels but shorter (2-3 sec). Also I'm not interested much in length gains as in girth. Is there some other 'technique' I can use for girth gains, instead of jelqing?

P.S. I couldn't remember the date I started ( week or two activly ) so I put todays date in sig.

[JonPop]

ggboy. Welcome to the Gym. It seems that you feel totaly embarassed by the concept of PE. That you would be ashamed to have someone see you with some kind of oil, coming out of the bathroom, is totally rediculous. Don't you have a shaving kit, or some kind of a case for your toothbrush and such?
Jelqing is the best way to gain girth. If you don't have the correct mind set to start this now, don't get involved. You have the rest of your life to work on your penis.