[PESG]

TURTLING


What is it?
I’m assuming most people have seen a turtle before at some point in their lives. Am I right about this? When you walk up to a turtle, unless he is a particularly frisky one, he forces his head and neck into his shell. That’s what your penis does when you experience Turtling. I won’t go as far as to say it shrivels up, but it decreases in flaccid length dramatically but it maintains some level of hardness in the middle. Everyone at some point has experienced this.



What Causes It?
There are numerous causes for Turtling and I’m sure there are more than what I am about to list. But these are all reasons why I have seen Turtling occur or what I have read about.



(1) Overtraining – Turtling can definitely occur if you have trained your dick too hard. Usually this means too much Jelqing.

(2) Intense Workout – This is not to be confused with overtraining. Sometimes your dick will turtle after PE if you have a good, intense workout. The key difference between the two is the longevity of the Turtling. If your dick remains turtled all day, all night, or doesn’t respond to stretching out, then you have probably overtrained. Turtling from an intense workout should subside from simply stretching your dick out after your session – or it should subside with 10-20 minutes after your session.

(3) Insufficient Warmup – this is self-explanatory. If you did a PE session without a warmup or a terrible one, than I have found this to be a cause of Turtling. Always warm up until your penis is red and hot, raring to go!

(4) Jelqing Pressure – your dick may turtle because you have applied too much pressure while Jelqing. Remember to use a soft grip. It doesn’t take much to get blood moving around in there. So you don’t have to choke your poor guy.

(5) Stretching too hard – Remember not to stretch hard enough to pull your dick right off. That’s bad, not to mention probably painful. Beginners should stretch lightly, just hard enough to feel a pull.




Ways to Reduce Turtling: Here are some ways that I have found that can reduce Turtling, or even stop it from happening all together:

(1) Lighten your Jelqing pressure (even if you think it is already too light)

(2) Try reducing your Jelqing. Not much. 10-15 reps can be the difference between overtraining and being just right. The goal is to find what is right for YOU.

(3) Reduce your stretching tension

(4) Increase your warmup time. If you warmup for under 8 minutes right now and you tend to turtle, try warming up for 10 minutes or more.

(5) Drink Green Tea! Yes, I have found this shit really helps with not only erectile quality, but it seems to give me a better flaccid too. I don’t know why. Kingpole has a wonderful erection tea. I personally hate ginger though but be sure to try that too. It helps! I drink a cup before bed every night.
http://www.pegym.com/forums/exercise-fitness/3747-green-tea-raises-dht-testosterone-levels-2.html
http://www.pegym.com/forums/exercise-fitness/3005-erection-tea.html

(6) I have found this oil to really help m flaccid. Radiohead first discovered this oil and I personally believe he deserves a Nobel prize for discovering its uses in PE. Bio-Oil PurCellin Oil. Stuff works like magic. I use it to jelq with. I also apply some after my PE session and after I get out of the shower.
http://www.walgreens.com/store/product.jsp?CATID=100592&id=prod3156430

(7) Jerking off too much can possibly cause Turtling. I’m not ready to say this for a fact but I am finding this to be somewhat true. I have had no signs of Turtling ever since I basically quit jerking off. This includes edging. I’m not sure how it affects gains, I haven’t been with it long enough. But I’ll be sure to let everyone know the results of this experiment. But seriously, try limiting your jerking off to once every week, or maybe even once every 2 weeks. It might be difficult, but it could also be worth the effort.

(8) Daily Warm-ups. This is something I am also starting and I am encouraging some others to do as well. It’s quite simple. Try giving your dick a warmup session every day. Even on your days off. I do two warm-ups a day. I spend about 3 minutes in the shower with hot water focusing on my penis. When I’m done, I do 10 JAI stretches, then apply some of that marvelous oil. I then warmup later on with my rice sock, usually at night. If I’m on a day off of PE, I simply warmup and apply some oil. If I’m exercising, I warmup and do my PE session. It’s that simple guys. I think this can really really help!

(9) If you have prolonged Turtling, for day and days, and none of these tips have helped you, you might greatly need some time away from PE. Try taking a week off, or 2, and then come back and apply some of these tips.



I hope some of these tips are useful. Like I said, these are ideas that I have found to work for me. I would imagine that some of these will work for everyone too. Good Luck to everyone. Happy PEing!

[Banana]

Really helpful! I am a long time sufferer from turtling and I will definitely take into account all of those tips.
Thanks PESucessGuy once again another great post.

[jayhawk11]

Good job PEsuccessGuy!! This is a very good guide to prevent and fix any turtling problem.

[flyboy351]

Sweet. Green tea! I read that post and I think I'll start drinking more. I always have some in the morning during breakfast after I get done working out. I'll keep doing that but also introduce the this in the evening. I have a question regarding suggestion #8. Is it okay to do these JAI stretches outside of the beginners workout? Is that considered doing more than what you should?

Thanks for the advice.

[W.M.P.]

Good post, PEsG. I've actually been doing extra warm-ups here and there (water-cup method) just to relax all the tissues (kind of giving the W.M.P. a hot jacuzzi I guess) and it's definitely a good addition to any regimen.

[ReetB]

PE-SG, what is your view on baggy clothes and turtling / flaccid hang? I try to wear as baggy underwear as possible so that I'm more "free" down there. I own a few pairs of these tighter fitting designer Calvin Klein trunks and I don't think it helps and probably aids turtling.

What do you think?

[PESG]

Originally Posted by flyboy351

I have a question regarding suggestion #8. Is it okay to do these JAI stretches outside of the beginners workout? Is that considered doing more than what you should?

JAI Stretches are probably the least invasive stretch you can do. Even as a beginner, doing a few JAI Stretches to plump up will do no harm and won't cause you to be overtraining. If you sit there 5 times a day and do sets of 50, then that will.

Originally Posted by ReetB

PE-SG, what is your view on baggy clothes and turtling / flaccid hang? I try to wear as baggy underwear as possible so that I'm more "free" down there. I own a few pairs of these tighter fitting designer Calvin Klein trunks and I don't think it helps and probably aids turtling.

I wear boxers only. Briefs for me are too constricting. Tight underwear might help induce turtling. Someone else who wears briefs would have to comment on this though. I'm not really sure.

[Eyes2TheSkies]

I've actually experienced turtling a lot. I always wondered why it happened. Maybe that's not why I'm not gaining. Excellent post, PEsuccessguy.