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  • Anybody have jelqing induced ED?

    I did some jelqing exercises for a few months around this time last year and I admit I probably did not warm up or warm/cool down properly all the time (probably about 1 in 3 or 4). The first couple of months I had great EQ and rockhard morning woods. After a while, I jelq'd maybe once a week to try to maintain for a month or two. Ever since then, I've had trouble getting 100% erections. EQ is probably at a 6 or 7 and it is hard to maintain while standing or upright (easier to maintain while lying down).

    Anyone else have these types of symptoms? Could I have damaged veins or nerves?

    I also want to mention that I have this cold sensation on my sack (right underneath my penis) as well as my glans (especially in the morning). This coldness is not there all the time (only when I sit or lay in certain positions). The glans and sack do warm up with touch. Any help is appreciated.

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    Were you Kegeling during your Jelqing,if not start.Kegels make more blood available to the pelvic region.Iv had circualtion problems all my life,cold hands,cold feet,cold nose and sometimes a less than warm penis.Kegels havent helped my hands,feet or nose but they dramaticly improved the overall blood supply to my pelvic region.I have 9/10 to 10/10 erection quality now and my penis stays a good warm to hot temp. now.Do about 200 kegels spead out over a day 6 days a week for 2 weeks and you'll see a vast improvment in EQ and the coldness should lessen.If after this there is no improvment make an apointment with a Urologist.Hope this helps you out buddy.Good Luck.
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    • #3
      jx48, There are many possibilities for why your EQ has dropped.

      You did not do what was recommended (warming up, cooling down) this is to help prevent injury. Also I am going to answer your question with a question, which is very important to know for a solid answer. Were you on any medication/supplements? Have you been watching an excessive amount of porn? Did you feel depressed? What exactly was your routine? Include any information you can, how long each rep took, for every exercise, if you kegel. Edge, masturbate, sex?

      Detailed response please.
      "Why pay for what you can get free"
      How PE Works
      (8/18/08) BPFL 4.12 FG 4.37 BPEL 6.75 EG 5.37
      (3/08/09) BPFL 4.16 FG 4.25 BPEL 6.61 EG 5.25 After 7 months of no PE
      (4/13/09) BPFL 4.18 FG 4.50 BPEL 6.75 EG 5.5

      Lesson: PE WORKS
      "We learn from failure, not from success!" - Bram Stoker
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      • #4
        I'll try to be as detailed as possible here. Thanks in advance.

        i was definitely doing kegels at the time... one thing i was wondering is if maybe i overworked my PC muscle. i've read on some sites that this is possible.

        i was not taking any supplements at the time, besides my daily multivitamin and some vitamin C
        here was my routine (to the best of my memory)

        i also did start drinking fairly heavily about 2 times a week during this period. the reason i didn't properly warm up or down at times was because i was too drunk/lazy to i think.

        1) warm up with a hot towel for about 10 minutes
        2) lig stretches (30 second counts) for about 5 minutes
        3) about 100 3-second wet jelqs with vaseline at roughly 80% erection for the first month.... after that i think i tried to do 200-300 3-second wet jelqs with vaseline... the number of jelqs i did depended on how tired i was and how much of a "work out" i thought i had gotten on any given day
        4) 5-10 second holds (one hand on the base, the other just under the glans)... did this for about 5 minutes
        5) warm down with a hot towel for about 10 minutes

        I think that was what i did most of the time (again, i failed to warm up or warm down on some days... stupidly)

        Now that i think back... i also incorporated a hold to reverse the slight baseball bat look on my penis. i think i may have injured myself doing these by squeezing too hard at times. i think i probably squeezed too hard a handful of times (not consistently though). i made sure i kept it pain-free whenever i did these.

        i'm just not sure what to do right now, as this PE routine did definitely help in the beginning. my injuries and ED problems can be attributed to my failure to follow strict guidelines if PE is the problem at all.
        i've been thinking about going on a very light routine again just to see what happens, but i'm hesitant too, as i don't know what's going on down there for sure.

        i actually thought my ED problems were due to prostate issues, but my went to a uro the other week and he said my prostate is barely growing, and should be where it is for my age (24). i had some blood work done and a urine sample taken, but i need to go back in 2 weeks to get those results. in a way, i'm kind of hoping that i have a testosterone issue.

        i hope this is enough information. please let me know if you need any other info

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        • #5
          some additions: when i was doing kegels, i did try to edge while masturbating (try not to blow my load as many times as possible for as long as possible).

          i probably did this like twice a week.

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          • #6
            jx48, since your join date is this month and the only three posts you have is in this thread, it's fairly safe to assume that you are fairly new to PE. You said earlier that you have done PE exercises for a few months this time last year? So you started PEing about a year ago, correct?

            It's very possible you overworked your PC or BC muscle from too many kegels, I have done so myself. Luckily for me I followed my PIs and I wasn't out of commission longer than a week.

            Were you seriously intoxicated while deciding to exercise your penis? I really hope I read that wrong. Because alcohol contracts the penis (if that's the correct terminology). Let me explain, more blood flow is good for the penis. Alcohol lessens the blood flow and dehydrates you, therefore bad for penis. I suspect like with lifting weights we all have off days with our bodies, so I think it may include the penis. But I'm not exerpienced enough to be positive.

            What you should do. Consider if PE is right for you or if you can be dedicated to doing it. I used to masturbate to porn about 6 times a day. Slowly, and I mean slowly, I would lower the number of times I would masturbate a day until now, I have gone about 9 days without porn whatsoever. Tie this into alcohol. It's okay to drink. Hell, I'm a writer, cliche! Anyway, just don't drink when you are trying to exercise. Do you lift weights intoxicated? Seriously listen to your PIs. If you aren't getting positive PIs then you probably did something wrong that day.

            For you I recommend starting on a newbie routine. I know it sucks, I did it myself to recondition my penis and now I'm on a routine, remek, Al, KP, and myself came up with. Also try to increase the stroke time and for PE-sake. Be at a lower erection level. 40 is my sweet spot for wet jelqs. and 60 for v-jelqs.

            EDIT: Thank you for messaging me, it gave me a chance to look for your post. I really hope this helps you out. You may also want to try some other supplements to assist you with your EQ. Kegels will help, but I suggest laying off of kegels or any kind of PE for at least a week.
            Larger
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            Last edited by Larger; 04-09-2009, 02:02 PM. Reason: a thank you
            "Why pay for what you can get free"
            How PE Works
            (8/18/08) BPFL 4.12 FG 4.37 BPEL 6.75 EG 5.37
            (3/08/09) BPFL 4.16 FG 4.25 BPEL 6.61 EG 5.25 After 7 months of no PE
            (4/13/09) BPFL 4.18 FG 4.50 BPEL 6.75 EG 5.5

            Lesson: PE WORKS
            "We learn from failure, not from success!" - Bram Stoker
            PE90X Routine

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            • #7
              With jx48's permission I have copied messages from my private inbox and attached them here, so that members can benefit from this experience.

              Originally posted by jx48
              Thanks for the reply.

              I guess I didn't make this clear, but I completely stopped doing PE exercises since april or may of 2008, so it's been about 11 months to a year now. I have not voluntarily done any kegels since then either.

              I'm seriously wondering if i have a PC muscle issue. When I masturbate or have sex, it feels like the PC kind of has a reflex action, but not completely flexed. I'm not sure what this is, but it almost feels liek whatever mechanism traps blood in the penis and keeps it in there to maintain an erection is not working. not sure how else to explain this.

              it's possible that i have caused myself to have a venous leak. i'm not sure what the cold sensations are coming from either. i didn't really explain in depth about my ED issues with my uro, but i will next time i go in two weeks. from his take, it sounded like these cold sensations do not occur from any kind of disease or nerve damage.

              how long did it take for your pc muscle to recover when you were having trouble with it? i assume any kind of muscle tiredness would not last over a year, which is why i'm not sure what the hell is going on. i guess my best option right now is to lay it all out there for my uro, as embarrassing as it will be.

              i'll maybe get on a newbie routine again to see how it goes. gotta be extra careful i suppose.

              sorry for bombing your inbox with a long message. figured it would be easier to reply to you here instead of the post.

              Thanks again.

              ps: if you remember any threads off the top of your head that relate to ED, can you let me know? this search function does not seem to work too well
              Originally posted by figMiNT
              Since I was incorrect about your PE time frame, and you have not performed any PE whatsover for 11 months, my answer changes significantly. What does I have not voluntarily done kegels at all? Have you or haven't you done them? If so, how many would you say a day, week? How many repetitions? VERY IMPORTANT.

              EQ is highly pschological. When I thought I had ED, I had ED. Trust me, you do not have ED, you think you do so you do. It's not a for sure thing, yet. Make sense? I'm gonna do you a huge favor. Read my progress log carefully. I was so worried about having ED that I thought I did, and freaked out, and my EQ dropped. It's all in the mind.

              A venous leak? I was doing research into it, and even though this was the first hit, the answers are seem most accurate out of other answers. Urology: Venous Leak.., routine blood tests, hardening of the arteries. I actually default to WebMD for information like this. The only way to know for sure is with a test. I don't think you have it, but it's always a possibility.

              Why not discuss in detail everything to your urologist? They are true professions, whereas people on this forum if you accept their advice are just that, oppinionated. Advice can either be helpful or unhelpful and so forth. I am not a doctor, nor do I have a degree in medicine, or a liscene to pratice it. My knowledge is primarily research-based. However, since I don't just google one word and select the first hit, I would say I use vaild sources. I really like this one CLASSIFICATION OF ERECTILE DYSFUNCTION.

              From what you have told me so far. I'm gonna put in my recommendation as if you were me. Take it easy for the two weeks before you go back to see the doctor. I know this sucks, but you can do it. I did no kegeling, porn, masturbation, or sex for one week. So you gotta try for double that.

              First of all, penile exercising, masturbation, edging, and ballooning are very different things. Sure they involve the penis and your hand(s) but the start to finish is different.

              Some helpful posts of mine and others, relating to ED or EQ. Since you seem like someone who actually reads stuff thouroughly, I'll send you a bunch of links that should benefit you.

              https://www.pegym.com/forums/beginner...blem-porn.html
              https://www.pegym.com/forums/progress...html#post27292
              Penis Enlargement Gym - Kegel exercises for men!
              https://www.pegym.com/forums/gym/4189...html#post26943


              As for bombarding my inbox, bombard away. My box can hold 1,000 messages. And I'm just at a little over 200.

              I had two injuries I think lemme read my progress log. One of them isn't mentioned I started with the 2 on one off beginner routine in the guide and overworked myself. So I took a week off. Then I popped a ligament a few weeks ago giving me a drop in EQ. Because of that I designed, with the help of moderators here, a fixer routine, that has been improving my EQ. For me currently, less is more.

              Hope this help, and I hope you allow me to post this in the thread. If you want privacy, by all means I understand.
              Originally posted by jx48
              Hey I appreciate the amount of time you've taken to respond to me. I've been a little busy the past couple of nights, but will thoroughly read through your previous threads, links, logs, etc. Please feel free to post this on the thread. I just figured messaging you was the surest way to get a response to my questions. I'll be back in touch with you once I review all this information.

              just some quick comments:

              do you think i have an issue with my tunica being stretched more than it should be (compared to teh amount of smooth muscle growth i have had). i read in a thread that this can cause EQ issues. not sure if you have any experience or if you've heard anything about it.

              And by voluntary kegels i mean, i did not kegel with the intent of strengthening my PC muscle. I htink i mentioned this, but whenever I masturbate, it feels like i have this reflex in the pc muscle area (not a complete contraction). so if that wasn't clear, i have not been doing PC exercises for about a year now. have been doing no exercises or stretches.

              Thanks for the help.
              According to remek and Iguana's TGC Theory, it would seem that the limiting factor from what you describe is the smooth muscle. You want to be sure though, so your bone-pressed flaccid stretched length (BPFSL) is needed. You want to subtract your BPFSL by your BPEL. For example, my BPFSL - my BPEL is .07 (not even close to 0.5). Once I know what the difference is between your BPFSL and BPEL I can tell you what appears to be the limiting factor.

              Ahh, I see now. I think I have an idea of what you mean by a "reflex in the PC muscle area" during masturbation. I think you're talking about during emission, before ejaculate leaves the head of the penis, your body tries to hold it but cannot. It could be how you masturbate as well, depending on my posture, the speed and ferocity of my strokes, sometimes I feel a little contraction there. That's what I had before I took my break. Now I do a hold a light kegel for most of my edging/ballooning to keep fully erect and have more sensation. When time comes for emission, I contract the PC muscle harder.

              From this new information, I'm gonna stick with my reccomendation. Take it easy for the two weeks before you go back to see the doctor. I know this sucks, but you can do it. I did no kegeling, porn, masturbation, or sex for one week. So you gotta try for double that.

              Thanks for getting back to me, and I hope this helps you out.

              -fig
              "Why pay for what you can get free"
              How PE Works
              (8/18/08) BPFL 4.12 FG 4.37 BPEL 6.75 EG 5.37
              (3/08/09) BPFL 4.16 FG 4.25 BPEL 6.61 EG 5.25 After 7 months of no PE
              (4/13/09) BPFL 4.18 FG 4.50 BPEL 6.75 EG 5.5

              Lesson: PE WORKS
              "We learn from failure, not from success!" - Bram Stoker
              PE90X Routine

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