[ajmarket]

I don't know if this is possible. . .but check this out

I haven't been doing PE religiously. . Once or twice a week of purely stretching.. some jelqs maybe every other week. . .

My primary concern is EQ which I'm visiting a urologist about. .. but kegels have helped. .

Anyway, I used to turtle a lot, even before I knew what it was. I added bed fowfers a few times a week just for 5 or 10mins and I have stopped turtling so much. .

today when I was at my most flavvid state I grabbed my head and stretched out far. . . It seems I can stretch it really far. . I grabbed a tape measure I can stretch it almost to 8inches. . Wtf!? Well.. 8 with bone pressed (I don't know if this counts)

I wish it was that big when hard. . .

Well, thicker. . Like I said I did this at my most flaccid smallest state so it was like a gummy worm hahah very thin and stretchy

What's this mean

[epsilon]

Your routine was focus in your flaccid gain. Stretch and fowfer specially fowfer. Since you seldom do jelq the tunica which cover the cc and cs was develop first than the smooth muscle, yes you can consider them gains. If I'm in you situation I will add jelq in a higher erection for a rock hard EQ and put something to the added tunica.

Read TGC theory.. You'll find your answer there http://www.pegym.com/forums/beginner...explained.html

[ajmarket]

Does this mean I am most likely an easy gainer?

I mean stretching and fowfer very randomly every once ina while and I see better flaccid length and gain

[PhibbysHammer]

I assure you if I had an 8" flaccid stretch (mine is almost 7.5" now) I'd soon have me close to an 8" Erection.
Epsilon gave you good advise, take advantage of it. Here's wishing you a Good Hard 8!!!

[ajmarket]

Now I need a good smooth muscle routine. . . Anyone?

[epsilon]

PART 3: How to Use the Clues Effectively

Once you know what your limit is, the fun part begins: Using your the clues to help you develop a more effective routine.

Using Your TGCs to Design Your Workout
In short, you can focus on exercising your smooth muscle by doing Ulis, squeezes, clamping, and other girth-type exercises where the pressure forms on the inside; and you can focus on your tunica with stretches, hanging, and other length-type exercises.

Now, you may ask: Why should I focus on just one tissue, why can't I do both length and girth exercises? The answer is that you can, if your TGCs don't clearly show that either is your limit. If, however, your TGCs show that either the smooth muscle or the tunica is the limit, you'll want to exercise the limit. If you don't, gains will probably be hard to make and possibly won't happen at all.

Exercising your smooth muscle when your tunica is the limit doesn't work because it results in hardness instead of size! It's like putting more air into a tire that has already reached its maximum capacity. This is great from a penis health perspective, bad from a penis enlargement perspective.

Exercising your tunica when your smooth muscle is the limit doesn't work because the more the tunica enlarges without the smooth muscle enlarging, the more your erection quality will suffer!

How to Exercise the Tunica
We believe that length-type exercises, where the pressure generally forms on the outside, focuses on the tunica more. This doesn't mean stretching and length exercises doesn't exercise the smooth muscle. In fact, the opposite is probably true: When we are stretching, hanging, or using an ADS, we are stretching both the smooth muscle and the tunica. However, it would appear that the tunica is probably taking the blunt of the stress, as it is the tissues closest to the point of origin. In other words, the tunica is on the outer layers of the penis, the smooth muscle is on the inner layers, and stretching is generated closer towards the outer layers. Meaning, if you are hanging, the hanger is on the outside of the penis, pulling the tunica.

If your main focus is to get more girth, yet your tunica is your limit, it's probably possible you can focus on the tunica with certain exercises like the Flaccid Bend and HammerHeads (compression squeezes.)

How to Exercise the Smooth Muscle
Girth-type exercises like squeezing, clamping, and Ulis also workout both the smooth muscle and the tunica However, it would appear that when we do girth exercises, the main pressure comes on the inside (from a rapid influx of blood flow). This directly causes your smooth muscle to expand, which indirectly causes the tunica to expand (when the smooth muscle presses against the tunica). Thus, the smooth muscle is probably taking the blunt of the stress as it is the tissue closest to the point of origin.

WHAT TO DO RIGHT NOW: Focus Your Routine
A key point here: You don't have to completely change up the days you do your routine, how often you do it, etc. - just make sure the exercises you're doing focus on the tissue that is the limit.

If your smooth muscle is your limit: Adjust your routine so it is mostly girth-based. That said, you don't want to focus completely on girth. You should do at least 10% to 20% of length exercises as well, and possibly more, as length exercises do most likely stretch the smooth muscle to some degree and help it to expand. If your goal is length and girth, you'll probably want to make your routine roughly 30% length-based and 70% girth-based. If your goal is only length, you'll still want to do at least 60% of girth exercises and possibly more. Also focus your jelqs with a high erection level, around 70% to 90%.

If your tunica is your limit: Adjust your routine so it is mostly length-based. Again, you should still do at least 10% to 20% of girth exercises as well, and possibly more. If your goal is length and girth, you'll probably want to make your routine roughly 30% girth-based and 70% length-based. If your goal is only girth, you'll still want to do at least 60% of length exercises and possibly more. Also focus your jelqs with a low erection level, around 40% to 60%.

http://www.thundersplace.org/forum/n...eply&p=1135847


What is your regular routine? There is no special set, just adjut

Warm up
1 Set Stretch all direction>>limited<<
Jelq at higher erection rate - 70%-90%
3 set Uli or Squeezes, Slinky bend..
Edge for as long as you like but not less than 30minutes.
Warm up or down.

IMHO you don't need to change your routine you just need to adjust it to conform to the TGC. Your current routine is not balance, so you need to adjust the axis, if you are doing 70% tunica exercises(stretch) 30% smooth muscle (jelq), just do 70%Smooth muscle (jelq) and 30% Tunica stretch. Lastly don't forget your kegel and edging (However, it would appear that when we do girth exercises, the main pressure comes on the inside (from a rapid influx of blood flow)

Hope this information can help^^ Good luck to a rock hard penis.. are you taking supplements. If I'm in your shoes I'll Follow KP's regimen.


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