[hoeren]

hey im doing this on and off for 2 years now and no results :S

I really need help.

I have a high LOT

im doing it 1 day on 1 day off and in the weekends off. So im training 3 times a week. (mon, wed, fri)
Whenever I do it i warm up with a rice sock 10 min
then i do stretching with kegels 10 min
then i do jelqing 10 min with baby oil
and then im done.

out of frustration i do the jelqing longer now, for like 40 minutes sometimes

i try not to put a lot of stress on it and it does not hurt.

What should i feel by the way. if you feel like you are stressing the tissue without pain is that a good or a bad thing

I have a grower i think, flaccid im not big at all (4 inch long and 4 inch girth)
im hard 6.5 inch el and 5 - 5.5 inch girth
my penis is wider at the bottom, near my belly and as it goes up towards the top the girth decreases

I appreciate help and advice a lot

[PE dannyboy]

Alright man.. During that 2 years of the same routine.. did you take long breaks like 2 weeks off? If not then i think you should.. but is your unit bruised or anything? any discoloration?

Also you said you jelq and then your done.. Do you WARM DOWN after your workouts? You should warm down 10 min or more after your workouts to insure a proper healing cycle and prevent injury

[Cult]

You haven't been gaining from it at all, but you still persist doing the same thing for 2 years?

[LookAlive]

I actually admire the fact that you've PE'ed for 2 years and not given up, I can't say I'd be that strong myself.

As for help, you could change the amount of days you do on/off. Say 2 on and 1 off?

You could try different variations of jelqing, different stretches or even hanging (you must have a pretty conditioned penis by now!).

Maybe you could lessen your workout, maybe you're doing too much.

I'm not sure though, 2 years with no gains is a long time.

How are your PIs?

LookAlive

[hoeren]

Well I have done it on and off Like 3 weeks sticking to it, then 3 weeks off sometimes even 6 months off. But i try to do it regularly. I was thinking, maybe my i should stick to a routine and finish it instead of starting every 2 months.

about the warm down routine, i heard that was not so smart. I thought it was big Al who does a cooling down with a cold cloth. He said it helps to cement the gains.
I also heard it might not work so i decided to do nothing at all.

In the beginning by the way I did not use any warm up. Maybe I did too much in the beginning, ruining my starters' gain. I dunno.

Anyway I am keeping it up, i was thinking about changing my routine to do it 5 days on 2 days off.

[hoeren]

By the way my penis looks good i think.
I do notice more superficial arteries, but my skin is very white aswell. Anyway the arteries in my skin have become more visible.
I have good morning woods mostl of the time but I do notice after I trained I dont always have night woods.

Also when i started PE my penis would stay longer bigger flaccid after I was finished training. Now it gets back to normal quicker. I think its used to it.
I did however gain length a tiny little bit. I was 19 when I started I am 21 now. Dont know if it is due to growth or actual PE.
I gained however 0.4 inches in length But I hoped I would have gained 4 inches by now. 1 inch every half year.

Im continueing PE anyway and keep you updated.

By the way I was wondering, I read about L-arganine. I would like to take that but I dont like pills. Are they in foods aswell ? And will you get enough of it?
I thought nuts contained a lot of L-arganine. But how many nuts, and what type of nuts would I need to eat ?

[LookAlive]

Stick to the routine! You have to be committed!

Personally I warm up and warrm down and think it has played a large factor in my gains. Warm down or cool down, I think it's worth it!

That's good that you have actually gained, and an inch a year is extremely fast growth for anyone, people grow at different speeds.

Stay committed and you're sure to see more gains!

Maybe you should start a progress log or something? This tends to motivate a lot of people!

Hope this helps,

LookAlive

[hoeren]

Thank you LookAlive!

I love all of your posts by the way

I think it is be a very wise idea to keep a log.

By the way, as i think a lot about my penis atm it wont stay fat after my last routine. It feels sore, but now full.
Maybe im too hard on it ?

Also is it possible to blow up cells that need to fill with blood and therefore making a penis slightly smaller than it was?

[LookAlive]

Maybe you should take a day or two off and start off with a lighter routine?

Make sure you jelq with a light grip and with not to high a % or erection!

I'm not sure on your last question I'm afraid! Just take it easy and be careful!

LookAlive

[Cult]

It sounds to me that you haven't stuck to a solid routine for long enough perhaps?

Nevermind, on to the future eh?... There are tonnes of fab people on here that will help you out will a suitable routine I'm sure.

I wonder if you would be best off getting on the beginner routine good and proper so that you can condition your penis... unless you feel it is sufficiently conditioned already?

I'm starting on the l-lysine and the l-arginine in the next few days when they come so i'll let you know how I get one with them, a little extra blood flow can't do any harm. Yes it is possible to get arginine in different foods like red meat and eggs, but unfortunatly I could not start to tell you what quantities to take them in.

I do have one question for you if you don't mind me asking: Seems as you started when you were 19 and you are now 21, have you found that your penis has grown since you were 19, at all, naturally maybe? (I'm particularly interested in girth, as I am 19 you see.)

Thanks

Cult