[D`Argo]

Hey flyboy,

I’m glad to meet you. I’m a new guy here on the forums, but I feel many of the problems you are facing are ones that I am going through now or have in the past. Everything except the POTS.

I’d like to start with your feeling down about being a virgin ag 22. I was a virgin until 21, and would have been one for many more years if I hadn’t of lucked out and met someone that I felt comfortable with. 22 is not that big of a deal and I know where you’re coming from with being one and just losing 80 pounds. I had lost 55 before I met my first wife, and that had caused a lot of self-hatred with being so fat. I still deal with some of that today 14 years later.

I want to move this directly into something else, so bear with me here. You can actually use this to your advantage in your first sexual encounter. Tell her that this is your first time and you’re real paranoid about getting her pregnant. You’ve never used a condom before, so those feelings are completely new. Start out with just feeling each other up and making out. Move into maybe trying oral on her or using your hand on her. Watch your response when she’s moving her body and moaning. Is it positive? Don’t panic if it isn’t. I’ll tell you more why not to later. If you’re not getting hard and she asks why, tell her that you’re just so nervous and she SHOULD comfort you and try to help. After all, she is an understanding woman and already kows this is your first time.

This moves me into your having trouble getting an erection. I’m going through this right now, too! I’ve recently visited a doctor who specialized in ED for a long time, and he tells me that not using it, or getting erections regularly, will cause your muscle to weaken to the point that it can not get or maintain an erection. He said that in order to keep a healthy penis you should keep a full erection for 30 minutes at a minimum 3 x per week. It is obvious to me that you and I require more than this to boost us past our hurdle.

Your uruologist keeps telling you that there is nothing wrong with you and that he can’t help you. That tells me that he has reached the end of his knowledge in the situation and doesn’t want to tell you he doesn’t know any more. I recommend finding another doctor. You HAVE to start getting erections in order to get past this. He SHOULD be prescribing you Levitra or something to help stimulate this for you. My doctor told me that if you can’t respond to the Levitra, that you should move directly into getting shots into your penis to force it to get hard.

I can relate to you on this because I’m having trouble after just one single year of celibacy and not getting erections while I slept due to anti-depressant medication. Probably more if you count all of the sucky sex I was having before that with my ex. I fully believe that I can get past this and know what my problems are, but I still start to feel down on myself about the situation. This makes the problem even worse. I can see that it has already taken its psychological toll on you from what you’ve said. This makes your need for medicine even stronger.

Now let’s go back to you fooling around with your lady orally and not getting hard while you do it. I experience the same thing. I can make her cum using just my mouth or hand, and not be into it. It’s hard as hell, but I try not to get down on myself about it. Especially since I didn’t use to have that problem before. She will have to follow-up and get me hard later. If I’m not taking Levitra, then MAYBE we can have innercourse. This past weekend we did it twice in the morning, and both times I was just barely there enough to do it with her on top. I started to feel like a failure. It’s hard, but you just gotta believe that you’re only not getting hard simply because of the weakened muscle and/or mind job.

On a side note, if I did take Levitra then watch out! We can go for hours with her cumming multiple times. This is what gives me hope and faith that it’s simply the weakened muscle like my DR told me so. I believe that if I keep following this regimen of frequent erections that I will be able to do that on my own one day.

As far as your POTS go, I don’t see much about that that would affect your sex life. Just don’t go changing positions all the time. I read it and the only boner killers I saw was the part about your blood pressure dropping after you stand up or lie down. This probably includes going from lieing down to doggy style. Stay clear of that.

Anyways, this is getting pretty long. I hope I was able to help you. It helped me to get it out some, too.

[flyboy351]

D`Argo,

Nice to meet you as well. Thanks for the reply and sharing things. No worries about a long reply... It's all good.

I never thought of using those ideas to my advantage during my first sexual experience. Thank you for that info. The best part is, it's all true so there's no need to feel guilty (that might make it worse!)

As far as maintaining an erection for that long... It's tough. very tough. If I attempt to do it, I have to grip the base and flex my PC muscle. Gripping hurts and I don't like doing it. If it means having to stay up for 30 minutes or longer, then I guess I have to do it.

I will make an appointment to see another doctor. I tried today and the receptionist was mad because of some stupid thing and nearly yelled at me for calling her instead of a different number. I'll try again tomorrow. I'm a bit apprehensive about ED medication. Do you have to rely on it after taking it for a certain amount of time?

My psychological issues could be all for nothing. I won't know unless I try. I met up with my new friend who is a girl but not yet my girlfriend (that was weird saying that...lol) on Sunday. The intentions are to develop a relationship but since I've never tried before or been in a situation like this I'm taking things slow and not pressuring her. We converse mostly through email and IM and she seems to like that. Anyway, back to Sunday. We talked for a good two hours and I found that she's really great. We enjoy a lot of common things and share a lot of the same dislikes. She seems very understanding and told me today she enjoyed "hanging out with me" yesterday. If this develops into a relationship with a physcal part to it, I would be surprised if she would refuse to work with me being that it would be my first time. So, I'd like to make it work... hopefully I won't screw it up. She lives about 30 minutes away which might be hard but still doable.

As far as pots, well, I am contacting my specialist tomorrow and will ask questions about it. I wanted to for some time but never got the courage up to talk to him. I guess it's time.

Thanks again.

[D`Argo]

I'm glad to hear things are going good with the woman friend.

One of the things my DR made clear to me more than once was not to use cock rings or pumps. He said they can show some help in the short run, but they will eventually harm you and it will be irreversible. Just wanted to throw that out there.

[flyboy351]

Thanks for the warning about cock rings. I looked at them but never wanted to buy them.

I have an update though. I talked to my specialist and stopped taking the beta blockers. I'm also trying out Ginkgo Biloba and L-arginine. If there are any negative side effects I'm gong to stop taking them immediately. So far so good though! I was able to get and maintain a pretty good erection last night and honestly it put me in a great mood. I hope this continues.

[going411by7]

Lots of great advice here, Flyboy. Those beta blockers can raise hell with erections. They did mine many, many years ago. My doctor kept saying that my ED was in my mind--he was a real asshole. No, it was in my prick!!--not in my mind. When I stopped taking the beta blockers, my woodies came back.

Here is my two cents worth: You don't want to take any meds if you can avoid it, and I understand that. The greatest thing for my erection quality since I started P.E. on my own (my woodies were fading), has been the jelq and the kegel. I practiced these two religously for three months--no stretching whatsoever....and bingo--my woodies came back. I was springing morning wood and eleven o'clock woodies.

I hope this is helpful--a good half to three quarter hour jelqing session with kegeling throughout the session and throughout the day worked wonders for me--maybe they will for you.

Good luck with your girlfriend. After reading this thread, I have a gut feeling that you are on your way to a real recovery as far as your E.D. is concerned.

[kingpole]

Stop the beta blockers. I imagine you need to keep your blood pressure up....Am I right....What is your blood presure at its lowest and blood pressure at its highest?

Don't drink green tea or black tea, they lower blood pressure. Do not take arginine it lowers blood pressure.

For tachycardia you need ginkgo to slow down the heart beat. Try 120 mg see how that goes. To raise your blood pressure you need Chinese Gensing 100 to 300 mg per day. Also for helping you sustain a higher blood pressure you can take Gaurana. And guess what All three can give you rock hard erections.

[flyboy351]

Wow guys... all these suggestions! I have stopped my beta blockers as of last Thursday.

Going411by7:
Thanks for the suggestions dude. Should I keep my lighter jelqing routine now since I'm still a newbie? I've only been religiously PE'ing for a month. I'm only jelqing 8 mins at a crack right now. What are your suggestions for edging afterwords? Things with the gf (if I can even call her my gf) are going slow... We only met up once for coffee since our lives are so busy with school and work. We live 30 minutes apart too which sucks for planning and such. Oh well, she emails me daily . Hopefully we can start seeing each other more to see if this will actually turn into something.

kingpole:
Yeah, my blood pressure falls slightly throughout the day which causes me to feel dizzy and/or sick. The beta blockers kept it up and I had to take another med to keep it lower since my blood pressure is really at a normal level. It doesn't make any sense to me and I disagree with the decesion to have been prescribed the meds in the first place since every time I have a checkup my readings are normal! No green or black tea? Okay... I thought those were okay and I was reading good things about them. Interesting. So Ginko - 120mg, Chinese Gensing - 200mg, and Gurana. Should I take this all in the AM? Also, any suggestions on where to purchase? I usually use GNC for all my stuff.

Thanks guys.

[kingpole]

Originally Posted by flyboy351

Wow guys... all these suggestions! I have stopped my beta blockers as of last Thursday.

Going411by7:
Thanks for the suggestions dude. Should I keep my lighter jelqing routine now since I'm still a newbie? I've only been religiously PE'ing for a month. I'm only jelqing 8 mins at a crack right now. What are your suggestions for edging afterwords? Things with the gf (if I can even call her my gf) are going slow... We only met up once for coffee since our lives are so busy with school and work. We live 30 minutes apart too which sucks for planning and such. Oh well, she emails me daily . Hopefully we can start seeing each other more to see if this will actually turn into something.

kingpole:
Yeah, my blood pressure falls slightly throughout the day which causes me to feel dizzy and/or sick. The beta blockers kept it up and I had to take another med to keep it lower since my blood pressure is really at a normal level. It doesn't make any sense to me and I disagree with the decesion to have been prescribed the meds in the first place since every time I have a checkup my readings are normal! No green or black tea? Okay... I thought those were okay and I was reading good things about them. Interesting. So Ginko - 120mg, Chinese Gensing - 200mg, and Gurana. Should I take this all in the AM? Also, any suggestions on where to purchase? I usually use GNC for all my stuff.

Thanks guys.

Yeah, take the Ginkgo in the morning and when your blood pressure declines in the afternoon take the guarana and Gensing. You may also consder drinking red bull and rock stars they to can raise your blood pressure.

Im thinking, this is not a DX by any means but a logical guess. That your Vagus nerve is not sending the correct message from you brain to your heart. Ginkgo is good forhealing damaged nerves. Also you may want to add in a little yohimbe to now and then.

[flyboy351]

Well, the problem with this medical thing is that my brain doesn't recognize changes in body posture. When it does, it will send a signal which rushes blood to certain places. The beta blockers were used to control this. Also, in situations with a lot of things happening, I get very dizzy and somewhat disoriented. It's all related to the medical thing.

[kingpole]

Originally Posted by flyboy351

Well, the problem with this medical thing is that my brain doesn't recognize changes in body posture. When it does, it will send a signal which rushes blood to certain places. The beta blockers were used to control this. Also, in situations with a lot of things happening, I get very dizzy and somewhat disoriented. It's all related to the medical thing.

Do th beta blockers help with this?

Im going to find a natural treatment for your condition, hopefully i can find something online.