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Old 04-09-2009   #1
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I'm in really good health and have normal sexual performance and functioning but I suffer from severe sexual performance anxiety. This makes me completely sexually unresponsive around women because instead of being sexually aroused my body enters an adrenaline rushed battle state. There are a few instances when I am comfortable around women and have good performance but that is a rarity since I have never been in a long term relationship. I am completely heterosexual. Because of this condition I have been using alcohol to kill my anxiety and cialis to counter the ED which the anxiety gives me. Although this combination works I never enjoy the sex and feel horrible afterwards. Not only does my body feel terrible from the combination of the two drugs, but I get another anxiety attack in regards to whether I could have caught anything from the girl, if she got pregnant, and why I hooked up with the girl in the first place (who most likely wasnt that attractive since I was drunk). Aside from my anxiety, the only other issue I have with my erectile performance is that my erections subsides faster than I would like especially when Im not recieving any physical stimulation. While many wouldnt call that ED I consider it a form of ED because it really bothers me and I would like erections that dont subside as easily. Anyways I have a few questions that I was hoping someone with some experience with these two drugs could answer.

1. Cialis is a pharmaceutical drug with unknown long term health effects. A friend of mine with and extensive background in nutrition and drug research claims that you can use cialis every day for the rest of your life and nothing bad will happen to you.. but I dont buy it. What do you think? I dont take any drugs and use a half dosage or less of cialis very rarely and only if I am about to have sex. I know its true that "all natural" is overused and many poisons such as cyanide are "all natural". Does this mean that a pharm drug can be safe to use over a long period of time?

2. The standard dosages of PDE5 inhibitors feel too powerful and give me artificially strong erections which just dont feel natural. I have been splitting the pills in half or in thirds to solve this issue but then sometimes I run into the issue of it not countering my nerves enough. Would trying to obtain the Cialis daily pill (which is very low dose) and just taking that as needed be a good alternative?

3. When I'm on alcohol and cialis and having sex, it is not pleasurable in any way shape or form. Its as if my penis is numb. Is this caused by the drugs, or is it caused by the fact that my brain is still in an anxious and non sexual state and that even though my penis is erect my brain is not.

4. I took a full 20 miligram dose of cialis on saturday night because I had no time to cut the pill while with the girl. I decided not to have sex because I realized that my mind was just not into it, but I have noticed residual effects from the cialis as late as this morning where my morning erection was far easier to maintain with no stimulation then normal. I was able to maintain my self induced with light kegels morning erection for almost 20 minutes without touching it with my hands. It has been three and a half days since I took the 20mg cialis and am wondering if this was the cause. I have also started drinking green tea, taking arginine, ginko, ginsend, and ginger. Im guessing the Cialis is still somehow in my system almost four days later.
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Sabre: Sorry to hear about your troubles. Performance anxiety is common, especially for guys who PE (a lot of us tend to analyze every angle here) and, more importantly, for guys who haven't been in a long term relationship.

In short, you're thinking about it too much. Forget the drugs. Forget the alcohol. Both are bad for you, especially taken together and so frequently. Definitely don't take Cialis every day. It's unhealthy and you can get addicted.

My advice: Stick to a PE routine focused on rock-hard erections. Do jelqs, girth exercises, light stretches here and there and kegels. Especially kegels. But don't go overboard. It's like Goldie Locks: finding the amount that is "just right" is key.

Also, focus on your confidence. You know how to please women. You said it yourself: You just have to relax and be comfortable. If you're into reading, you may want to check out the classic Dale Carnegie book, HOW TO STOP WORRYING & START LIVING. Excellent book for coming over anxiety. It's a good read too.

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Yo put on a CONDOM...You shouldn't have to worry about catching something and it will help ypu last longer
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Great advice from Remek. Cialis can stay in your system for several days. I would think for someone your age, cialis and viagra, etc. would be a last resort if you're about to have sex. Once you get the kegeling down, you can use the kegel to create the same effects as the drugs. And no side effects, for sure!! That's why I started P.E. My woodies were flagging and I was sick of the side effects of viagra. A good jelqing session the day you are planning to have sex, along with "mastered" kegels will work great. It does for me and I am three times (or more) your age.

By the way, If you watch porn at all, this is another "no-no." It desensitizes us. And of course, you have to cut back on masturbation as well. Good luck, good pal.
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Oh, I forgot one thing. Alcohol combined with ANY drug can KILL you--much too risky.
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Hey Sabre,
Have you try Prosolutions ? Its pretty effective for the short term.

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I'm in really good health and have normal sexual performance and functioning but I suffer from severe sexual performance anxiety. This makes me completely sexually unresponsive around women because instead of being sexually aroused my body enters an adrenaline rushed battle state. There are a few instances when I am comfortable around women and have good performance but that is a rarity since I have never been in a long term relationship. I am completely heterosexual. Because of this condition I have been using alcohol to kill my anxiety and cialis to counter the ED which the anxiety gives me. Although this combination works I never enjoy the sex and feel horrible afterwards. Not only does my body feel terrible from the combination of the two drugs, but I get another anxiety attack in regards to whether I could have caught anything from the girl, if she got pregnant, and why I hooked up with the girl in the first place (who most likely wasnt that attractive since I was drunk). Aside from my anxiety, the only other issue I have with my erectile performance is that my erections subsides faster than I would like especially when Im not recieving any physical stimulation. While many wouldnt call that ED I consider it a form of ED because it really bothers me and I would like erections that dont subside as easily. Anyways I have a few questions that I was hoping someone with some experience with these two drugs could answer.

1. Cialis is a pharmaceutical drug with unknown long term health effects. A friend of mine with and extensive background in nutrition and drug research claims that you can use cialis every day for the rest of your life and nothing bad will happen to you.. but I dont buy it. What do you think? I dont take any drugs and use a half dosage or less of cialis very rarely and only if I am about to have sex. I know its true that "all natural" is overused and many poisons such as cyanide are "all natural". Does this mean that a pharm drug can be safe to use over a long period of time?

2. The standard dosages of PDE5 inhibitors feel too powerful and give me artificially strong erections which just dont feel natural. I have been splitting the pills in half or in thirds to solve this issue but then sometimes I run into the issue of it not countering my nerves enough. Would trying to obtain the Cialis daily pill (which is very low dose) and just taking that as needed be a good alternative?

3. When I'm on alcohol and cialis and having sex, it is not pleasurable in any way shape or form. Its as if my penis is numb. Is this caused by the drugs, or is it caused by the fact that my brain is still in an anxious and non sexual state and that even though my penis is erect my brain is not.

4. I took a full 20 miligram dose of cialis on saturday night because I had no time to cut the pill while with the girl. I decided not to have sex because I realized that my mind was just not into it, but I have noticed residual effects from the cialis as late as this morning where my morning erection was far easier to maintain with no stimulation then normal. I was able to maintain my self induced with light kegels morning erection for almost 20 minutes without touching it with my hands. It has been three and a half days since I took the 20mg cialis and am wondering if this was the cause. I have also started drinking green tea, taking arginine, ginko, ginsend, and ginger. Im guessing the Cialis is still somehow in my system almost four days later.
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