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  1. 08-25-2012 #1
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    Chronic Pelvic Pain syndrome can affect many aspects of a man's daily ilfe such as painful or frequent urination, premature ejaculation, ED, painful ejaculation and obviously the constant pain in the pelvic area. Some threads in this website have indicated that ED may be cause by having the Pelvic floor muscles too tense. If that is correct, then how do Kegel excises help since in theory they are suppose to make the muscles stronger(more tense) and not help them relax? . Can someone clarify that? I have long suffered from PE and now I feel like it was the precursor of CPPS. I have read in some sites to learn the Kegel exercises which may mitigate some of the pain caused by CPPS;however, I still don't understand how that is supposed to help the muscles relax. any input is greatly appreciated.
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  2. 08-25-2012 #2
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    You're just going to love talking to Pegasus. If he doesn't come by soon send him a pm. He will help you greatly.
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  3. 08-25-2012 #3
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    Hi .
    Spasm in the pelvic floor is strongly corelated with pre e and there is a link with some forms of ed and cpps.

    Kegels do indeed strengthen the pelvic floor and can often help with control ,it is uncontrolled contraction of the kegel muscles (pelvic floor) that is implicated . However it is reverse kegels which are usually used to relax the pelvic floor and balance the pelvic floor . You can think of it in the terms that work best for you, yin balances yang,softness balances strength . So the stremgth (kegels ) is balanced by the softening effect of reverse kegels . Merly working on standard kegels only can in some cases worsen the problem.

    In any case the normal route to relax the pelvic floor includes reverse kegel ,it can also include massage,stretching and excercises to overcome anxiety and stress.
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  4. 08-26-2012 #4
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    I think I had minor CPPS, I had pain after ejaculations especially if I get erect again, I also had pain in my Pelvic floor after ejac. I noticed that after routines of Rks and Ks my pelvic floor is becoming more stable, I don't get any pain after ejaculations, I stopped feeling the pain while sitting down, it is becoming generally better down there.
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    Ok butter and what % of rk are you using?
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  6. 08-27-2012 #6
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    thanks for the replies. So what exactly is reverse Kegel. forgive my ignorance but I am new to all this. I think this pain I am experiencing has made me read and search more online than ever before. thanks
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  7. 08-27-2012 #7
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    PE is bad for any type of CPPS due to the constant strain of jelqing on the ischiocavernous muscle. This is typically what causes hard flaccid. I would bet money over the fact that if you have full blown CPPS, and you start doing jelquing and kegals, you will get hard flaccid within the next year.
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  8. 08-30-2012 #8
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    Jelqing? what is that?
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    Jelq is a penis enlargement method and not relevant to you at this point.
    As stated in my earlier post ,doing kegel without reverse kegel ,can indeed worsen the issue .

    Kegels do indeed strengthen the pelvic floor and can often help with control ,it is uncontrolled contraction of the kegel muscles (pelvic floor) that is implicated . However it is reverse kegels which are usually used to relax the pelvic floor and balance the pelvic floor . You can think of it in the terms that work best for you, yin balances yang,softness balances strength . So the stremgth (kegels ) is balanced by the softening effect of reverse kegels . Merly working on standard kegels only can in some cases worsen the problem.

    There are many threads in the pre e forum on rk.
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  10. 08-30-2012 #10
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    should i do both kegels and reverse kegels ?
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