[ReetB]

Originally Posted by slanker

But have you tried it? I initially thought what you said, bought a few months supply and it did nada except give me headaches. Then I read somewhere on wiki and heard on thunders that the herb loses some of its potency/key ingredients in the extraction process. And the 1:50 is the best. I tried the 1:50 and that has to be the best supplement I have ever taken so far. Just my view having tried both. Having said that individuals metabolisms maybe different and each person responds well to different extraction ratios and supplements.

No I've not tried the 1:50 if I'm honest, but that's purely because it's difficult to get here in the UK. I have found one very good supplier which is based here and they only sell 1:200 tablets.

So what differences have you found between taking the 1:50 and 1:200 tablets?

[slanker]

Originally Posted by ReetB

No I've not tried the 1:50 if I'm honest, but that's purely because it's difficult to get here in the UK. I have found one very good supplier which is based here and they only sell 1:200 tablets.

So what differences have you found between taking the 1:50 and 1:200 tablets?

Yea its hard to get 1:50 here. I ordered it from Indonesia. It's an odd system, you have to deposit money in their british account to make payment. I ordered 1:200 from them assuming it would be better. They were 400mg capsules. IT did nothing for me accept make me feel a little hot tempered but not so much, and some headaches. No feeling down below, no hard erections and none of that ball acheing feeling you get from tongkat ali which shows the testicles are working. When I took the 1:50 for one month I had all of that, hard erections, throbbing, feeling of well being. I can't wait to order it again.

I think I know of the place you ordered 1:200 from, they do it in gelatine capsules though. Its expensive though. How did you find the 1:200, and what was your course and dosage?

[Lazy 8]

Originally Posted by slanker

Yea its hard to get 1:50 here. I ordered it from Indonesia. It's an odd system, you have to deposit money in their british account to make payment. I ordered 1:200 from them assuming it would be better. They were 400mg capsules. IT did nothing for me accept make me feel a little hot tempered but not so much, and some headaches. No feeling down below, no hard erections and none of that ball acheing feeling you get from tongkat ali which shows the testicles are working. When I took the 1:50 for one month I had all of that, hard erections, throbbing, feeling of well being. I can't wait to order it again.

I think I know of the place you ordered 1:200 from, they do it in gelatine capsules though. Its expensive though. How did you find the 1:200, and what was your course and dosage?

This sounds way too sketchy to me! I would not put ANYTHING in my body that came from a source in which I didn't have great confidence in how it was manufactured and the purity of ingredients. Have you ever visited a Third World country? I've worked in them, and I wouldn't trust the quality for a minute!

[slanker]

I know what you mean. I lived in a third world country for 4 years. However this source for tongkat ali, in indonesia, is the primary source whom supply all other tongkat ali suppliers worldwide, direct from the manufacturer in medan indonesia.

Tongkat ali in the UK

[kakarotto]

I´ ve 4 bottles of TA 1:50 I did my first cycle (20 days on 10 off) of 1200 mg and didn´t feel nothing,zero,nada

Next time I´m going to try 1600 mg at 20 days on 10 off, then 2000 and so on until I find my dose.

Won´t purchase anymore, it´s quite pricey for what it is and I think there is better compounds in farmacology that really works.

Kind regards

[Lazy 8]

Originally Posted by kakarotto

I´ ve 4 bottles of TA 1:50 I did my first cycle (20 days on 10 off) of 1200 mg and didn´t feel nothing,zero,nada

Next time I´m going to try 1600 mg at 20 days on 10 off, then 2000 and so on until I find my dose.

Won´t purchase anymore, it´s quite pricey for what it is and I think there is better compounds in farmacology that really works.

Kind regards

Don't fuck up your liver trying ever higher doses. Maybe the stuff doesn't work, period!

[ReetB]

I found this online:

When an extract is made, the active ingredients are extracted from the root, and the remaining cellulose is discarded. Extracts can have various proportions (the amount of active ingredients that is extracted). For example, an extract that is 1:50 gets 1 gram of active ingredients from 50 gram of tongkat ali root. An extract that is 1:100 uses 100 gram of root to produce 1 gram of extract, and a 1:200 extract is even more concentrated. It needs 200 gram of tongkat ali root to prepare just 1 gram of extract. Thus, among the various tongkat ali extracts cited above, 1:200 is the most concentrated and strongest form.

This would suggest 1:200 is actually more potent.

With regards to where I bought from, it's a place in the UK called Tongkat Fitness. Search for them on Google and you'll find them very easily

I would order from them again as I thought they were excellent!

[slanker]

If your experience with 1:200 was what you expected then I suggest that you stick with it. For me however and some others I felt nothing. Here's a thread on thunders about it:

http://www.thundersplace.org/forum/s...%3A200+tongkat

Yeap I know tongkat fitness, eurotongkat also do the 1:50 which is what I will be taking once I finished this round of supplements. Right now I am on sci-mentors test x which has some stuff I never heard of combined with trib, zinc and magnesium. I am not sure if it is increasing test but my libido and erections are through the roof.

[ReetB]

Originally Posted by slanker

If your experience with 1:200 was what you expected then I suggest that you stick with it. For me however and some others I felt nothing. Here's a thread on thunders about it:

http://www.thundersplace.org/forum/s...%3A200+tongkat

Yeap I know tongkat fitness, eurotongkat also do the 1:50 which is what I will be taking once I finished this round of supplements. Right now I am on sci-mentors test x which has some stuff I never heard of combined with trib, zinc and magnesium. I am not sure if it is increasing test but my libido and erections are through the roof.

Interesting....

Hmmm I'll have to look into this. Have you used Eurotongkat before? If so, how did you find them? The service from Tongkat Fitness was excellent I must say.

Regarding the Sci-Mentor products, I think they're excellent. I'm currently taking their Whey Protein Isolate to assist in my recovering shoulder dislocation and it's really top quality stuff. Perhaps I'll have a look at their Test-X product.

Out of interest, how do you find the Test-X compared to the Tongkat Ali?

[slanker]

Originally Posted by ReetB

Interesting....

Hmmm I'll have to look into this. Have you used Eurotongkat before? If so, how did you find them? The service from Tongkat Fitness was excellent I must say.

Regarding the Sci-Mentor products, I think they're excellent. I'm currently taking their Whey Protein Isolate to assist in my recovering shoulder dislocation and it's really top quality stuff. Perhaps I'll have a look at their Test-X product.

Out of interest, how do you find the Test-X compared to the Tongkat Ali?

I have ordered from eurotongkat and it was the only time I tried 1:50 and it was excellent. It just finished too quick. If I order now it will be direct from Indonesia since they supply everyone anyway and are cheaper.

Yeap the test x is great. When I first bought it I was sceptical but now I think I would do another round. But it is kind of on the dear side. Compared to the 1:50 I would say my erections are a tad harder on the test x but I coudn't say for sure as my TA month was over a year ago. What I remember about the 1:50 was the sense of well being I had everyday, and the high pointing erections every morning without fail. I am sort of getting that with the test x but its hard to say if it is increasing testosterone. It has so many beneficial ingredients inside it. TA has been proven in the British sports journal of medicine to increase testosterone.