Could quitting porn and masturbation cure ED, has anyone tried it?

[UKGuy Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close UKGuy]

I don't want to bore you all so I will try and keep it short and to the point. I'm nearly 30 years old when I was 21 I tried PE because I hated the size of my penis which is average (I guess seeing men with big dicks at a young age messed me up and made me insecure). So I tried jelqing which at one point I lost my erection. When I got an erection after I noticed the glans didn't fill up properly but I still got an erection easily. Then I tried manual stretching because I thought It might be safer I pulled a bit too hard I guess and my penis shrunk to a very small size (never felt any pain though) it took hours for my penis to go back into it's normal state I stopped PE since and my erection quality, sensitivity hasn't been as good and I have had libido issues 10 years or so now.

So I have seen a few doctors all typically told me it's all mental, saw a uroligist eventually he examined my penis says it's fine he didn't do physical tests. He basically said that I need to try and have sex first and If I still have issues only then would he do physical tests.

I have had my hormones levels tested multiple times all came back perfectly normal apparently.

So I tried various things to improve my ED, exercising, eating more healthy food, jogging, lifting weights, herbal pills, etc none of which had any real effect.

Sometimes I just give up and feel like I've permanently ruined my penis but I have noticed there are times I don't have ED

Reverse kegels tried these on and off over the years and there are times when I've tried to consciously relax pelvic floor that my penis comes back to life way more sensitive and I was getting erections a lot during the day. Unfortunately the effect doesn't last why?

Drinking monster noticed I have a harder erection the next day after.

Ejaculation erection tends to be pretty hard after I cum I can often get it up again in only 5 -10 minutes where as most of the time I can barely get a good hard erection even after days of no orgasm. I only cum once a week twice at most and I can't really ejaculate all the time just to get a good erection.

Other things I've noticed:

Going days, a week I can get it up but it's very weak and it will die in literally in seconds as though the blood flow is really poor down there.

Masturbating or edging for a good few minutes a day makes my erection pretty hard but If I masturbate a lot (although not ejaculating) during the day my boner is very weak and it takes a day or so to get hard again. Also when I have phases of having good erections If I keep getting erections a lot during the day but don't even masturbate my penis gets tired and again It takes a good day or so to get a decent erection. This makes me think my penis is in bad shape and hasn't recovered.

So now I'm hoping going long periods of no porn and masturbation could cure my ED but I'm not holding my breath. I have read several men being diagnosed with severe ED (venous leak) but claim to of gotten better even being cured after months of not masturbating or ejaculating. I'm willing to try this I haven't gone more than 2 weeks without cumming. My main concern with trying this is my penis could shrink due to lack of erections and the possibility that long periods of no erection will cause my penis to atrophy.

So anyway I'm trying this no masturbation or porn idea but I will try and at least get some kind of erection every few days. Has anyone actually tried this to help with their ED (I'm talking about guys with long term physical ED here not mental ED or anxiety issues).

I just want to be able to be confident again in getting constant hard erections not worrying whether I'm going to get another shitty weak erection today or not.

Even if it doesn't work so be it but I'm sure someone here must of tried this I'd like to hear from you.

Thanks

[zezeze Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close zezeze]

I canīt understand the logic behind not using your penis for months would somehow "heal" it. Sure if it is sore, infected etc a rest for a week or two can do no harm, but in ED case I can only imagine it making your condition worse.

[jonyoung Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close jonyoung]

You should probably get a dopplar or an MRI

[jonyoung Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close jonyoung]

and try Cialis and or a penis pump plus an NPT test to see if your ED is mental or physical wouldn't hurt as well

Did you hear a snap or a pop if so you might have gotten a penile fracture

[Closed035 Member Find all posts View Profile Close Closed035]

Sup UKGuy,

this actually worked for me, but my reason for stopping masturbating was because I'd given up on fixing my ED and didn't want to bother myself with it anymore. Luckily, in due time, it actually cured me to the state I was at before I ever started PE. One bad thing is your dick is definitely going to atrophy in size overtime. I remember mine shrunk considerably, especially in the girth department. It looked like a child's dick, it was terrible. Key is a child's dick > a non-functioning one.

Anyways, good luck.

[zezeze Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close zezeze]

Doppler in this case is waste of money. If you can get fully hard and maintain it even once, you donīt have venous issue.

[UKGuy Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close UKGuy]

Sup UKGuy,

this actually worked for me, but my reason for stopping masturbating was because I'd given up on fixing my ED and didn't want to bother myself with it anymore. Luckily, in due time, it actually cured me to the state I was at before I ever started PE. One bad thing is your dick is definitely going to atrophy in size overtime. I remember mine shrunk considerably, especially in the girth department. It looked like a child's dick, it was terrible. Key is a child's dick > a non-functioning one.

Anyways, good luck.

So are you saying that because you neglected your dick it shrunk? However over time your penis healed and became normal size again? Or has it permanently lost size but you're erection is okay now?

[UKGuy Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close UKGuy]

and try Cialis and or a penis pump plus an NPT test to see if your ED is mental or physical wouldn't hurt as well

Did you hear a snap or a pop if so you might have gotten a penile fracture

No never heard any pop sound, never felt any pain what so ever. From what I understand a penile fracture is generally painful I haven't felt any pain in my penis so I doubt that's what happened.

[jonyoung Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close jonyoung]

Well you might want to look into a perineal injury or pelvic floor issues to resolve your issues, I would still recommend an NPT test to test whether your ED is mental or physical and can you get a good erection while using a penis pump or Cialis?


and I've read this a while back ago Main Symptoms:

-retracted, hard flaccid penis. resists stretching and remains seized up unless exposed to heat for a generous amount of time
-flaccid penis feels lighter, almost weightless at times
-tightened scrotum
-reduced erection quality. harder to get erections and erections subside quickly without stimulation.
-tight, constricting feeling when erect
-slight reduction in erect length. often times slight reduction of girth.
-indentation on one side of penis, usually the left side. more pronounced when transitioning between flaccid and erect (getting a semi hard-on)
-reduced morning erections and spontaneous erections. morning erections are poor quality and can be very infrequent or never
-cold glans and scrotum
* all symptoms seem worse when in the standing position. everything seems to loosen up a bit and erections are better when sitting

Other Common Symptoms:

-reduced shaft sensitivity (penile numbness)
-penis head won't fill up during erections
-weird reaction of penis when flexing PC muscle (jerking motion rather than filling the penis with blood)
-tightness in perineum
-reduced sex drive
-difficulty urinating/ increased urge to urinate
-different feel to the skin in the genital area, softer and thinner
-reduced testicle size, joint pains, fatigue

Now let's talk about the causes of this condition. At least a few of these should sound familiar to you by now:

-stretching the flaccid penis causing a popping sensation at the base of the penis on one side, just inside the groin area (most common). This causes a frightening retraction of the penis into a small, hard and shriveled state
-injurey during sex or jelqing, can include the same popping feeling as above
-vigorous, prolonged masterbation session.
-injury to the perineum area or base of the penis

Right from the outset of my research, I have found that no one has had legitimate success with visiting a urologist. Ultrasound testing shows nothing out of the ordinary, and people are told that there is nothing wrong with them (or worse, it's in your head). I have not been to a doctor about this as I had no reason to suggest I would have any more success than the next guy (the symptoms of the condition are remarkably consistent among everyone afflicted)

How I made a mild improvement:

The overall tightness in the genital-perineum region seemed directly related to the severity of the symptoms. I found that my perineal muscles, such as the PC were chronically tense as if my body was bracing for the next trauma to the area. I focused on relaxing my pelvic floor for a night. It is tricky at first but gets easy with practice. Think of it like a reverse kegel, but don't put much force into it, just let the area kind of relax. It should feel like the entire region lowers and loosens a bit. This method will allow your penis and scrotum to hang a little lower and will improve erections a little. When sitting down, my erections feel more or less normal because the area is maximally relaxed. Problems continue when standing. This is no cure, but it helps and it did offer insight as to what the structural problem might be.

Nature of the problem:

Most of you are probably experts in male reproductive anatomy by now. I know that I have wasted countless hours trying to find anything that might hint at the cause of the problem. Let's consider the instance of injury by stretching. When stretching the flaccid penis, you are elongating several fascia. In order of deep to superficial they are the tunica albuginea, Buck's fascia, and Colle's fascia (continuous with the dartos tunic and the superficial fascia of the perineum, it is essentially one big sheet). Most people seem to think the problem is with the deeper fascia of the penis, and that there is an injury somewhere along the length of the penis. There isn't.

All of my searching has led me to conclude that the injury is to the superficial fascia of the perineum and penis, which are the same thing and can be referred to as Colles' fasica. The popping feeling many of us felt at the time of injury was this membrane tearing. The defensive retraction of the ruptured fascia is what caused and continuous to cause the constricted flaccid penis. This damaged fascia resists the tendency of the penis to loosen up when flaccid and to grow when erect. The change in appearance of the penis in the days and months following the injury is damage to the fragile tissue between colle's fascia and buck's fascia, known as areolar tissue.

Many people, including myself, complain of reduced "force" of erection, or the decreased resistance of the fully erect penis towards being pushed downwards. I think this is because of some loss of support form the fascia injury. Think of loss of tensile strength of a ripped cloth.

My injury was caused by accidentally swinging a small dumbell into the interface between the left base of my penis, the scrotum, and the perineum while exercising. I am 23 now. I experienced the infamous popping sensation and immediate flaccid regidity. I will periodically get a wierd pain in the left base of my penis, but also have pain in the left side of my perineum when I palpate it. Intriguingly, I have a tender small mass in the rear left of the perineum close to the anus, in the area where colle's fascia attaches to the pubic bone.

Why this is a more serious problem than you may think:

Besides the crappy erection quality, there are a lot of other negative things happening because of this simple injury. The fascia of the pernial region are more or less all connected to one another. The abnormal retraction of the damaged colles' fascia strains the perineal membrane (to which it is connected), resulting in many of the most common symptoms. Here is a list of what important structures pass through the perineal membrane and into the space above colles' fascia and a description of what happens to them when the membrane is constricted.

Deep arteries of the penis- restricts blood flow to the penis, causing a very small flaccid and cold penis
Dorsal arteries of the penis- same as above
Dorsal nerve of the penis- loss of sensation when in constricted flaccid state
Urethra- difficulty with starting urination

Between the perineal membrane and the superficial fascia of the perineum lies the internal pudendal vessels, which supply blood to the scrotum and the penis.

The danger for us lies in the fact that prolonged contraction of these fascia resticts blood flow to the entire gential region. There are reports of testicular shrinkage and continuous penile shrinkage. When the genital and perieal area are totally relaxed, the problem is minimized, but the majority of the time , for us, the areas are far from relaxed. Symptoms are worst after ejaculation, when there is a natural explusion of blood from the area and retraction of the penis.

The blood flow problem explains why L-arginine is beneficial for reducing symptoms. The extra NO produced from the arginine relaxes the blood vessels in the region and allows more blood to get to the penis while both flaccid and erect. L-arginine has helped me a little, but it obviously won't fix any structural problems.

What we can do:

We need to stop looking at this as a penile injury and more as a lower groin injury. We need to seek out doctors that specialize in the area and can order MRIs and ultrasounds to identify fascial tears in the perineum, not just the penis. Use descriptors like chronic pain and tightness in the entire area. My guess is the exact problem is in part of the Colles' fascia near the bulb of the penis (internal base fo the penis). Regardless, an injury anywhere to this fascia will screw up the penis, scrotum, and perineum because it covers all of these areas. There is no way, I repeat no way, any of us will recover without surgical repair of the tear. I have read about one person who has had it for 12 years. Once one of us has success with this the word can be spread. In the meantime, focus on relaxing the perineal area and take supplements like arginine, this will make it a little better for you. I firmly believe normacy can be acheived through locating the problem and surgically fixing it.

Look at these links for threads from other sites and more information about the anatomical structures I have described in this post:

An unresolved case on medhelp of the exact problem we have: rupture of superficial fascia of the perineum - Urology - MedHelp
And again: Perineal Fascia Tear/Rupture - Urology - MedHelp
Medhelp forum thread on the injury: Penis hard even in flaccid state - Men's Health - MedHelp

Anatomy:
Perineum
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[Closed035 Member Find all posts View Profile Close Closed035]

So are you saying that because you neglected your dick it shrunk? However over time your penis healed and became normal size again? Or has it permanently lost size but you're erection is okay now?

My erections are great now, but at the same time, they are a lot smaller too. you get used to it though. I think it was a result of PE. Like when my dick got bigger, it couldn't handle its new size so it stopped working properly, but once it got small again, it was having no problem maintaining erections. Like I said child's dick > a non-functioning one.

[mr6incher Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close mr6incher]

matador7: i overheard conversation earlier. You really a rough to yourself. Calling yourself child-dick is the very second it exists in any mind. Yet its your own, - the only mind on earth that cares (really i do care for you, but i sleep well anyway, understand me?).

I read your story. Heck let it function first of all but love it. Compare it to nothing not a pornstar.

[Jay1983 Senior MemberMember of the Month Apr 2014, Sept 2016 Find all posts View Profile Close Jay1983]

My erections are great now, but at the same time, they are a lot smaller too. you get used to it though. I think it was a result of PE. Like when my dick got bigger, it couldn't handle its new size so it stopped working properly, but once it got small again, it was having no problem maintaining erections. Like I said child's dick > a non-functioning one.

The reason you experienced limp dick during your PE endeavor was because you were over-training. Over-training kills EQ. You need to watch yet base your PE off of your PI's.

[UKGuy Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close UKGuy]

My erections are great now, but at the same time, they are a lot smaller too. you get used to it though. I think it was a result of PE. Like when my dick got bigger, it couldn't handle its new size so it stopped working properly, but once it got small again, it was having no problem maintaining erections. Like I said child's dick > a non-functioning one.

I take it when you say "small again" you actually mean your original penis size? I hate my dick size too but now I just want the damn thing to work properly. The ED is bad enough but feeling like you have zero libido everyday, is even worse. Masturbating isn't that pleasurable most of the time and my orgasms are shit feel like nothing.

[Closed035 Member Find all posts View Profile Close Closed035]

The reason you experienced limp dick during your PE endeavor was because you were over-training. Over-training kills EQ. You need to watch yet base your PE off of your PI's.

haha. I knew the second I made my post about the size I gained from PE causing my ED, someone was going to jump in and reply with this. I know what you're getting at, but it actually was quite the opposite. I started off thinking I was overtraining so I toned it down immensely, to the point where I never got a single red spot and took two off days for everyone one PE day. In fact, I probably wasn't doing enough at that point.

Funny thing is this is when I had my best gains, however, with the gains came a limp dick. At that point I stopped training altogether, and overtime, even though my dick was plenty rested from no porn, no PE, very little masturbating, my dick was still struggling to uphold its new size. Funny thing was as it got smaller, the better my erections got. Don't ask me why or how, I honestly don't know, but please respectfully don't contribute it to overtraining because that's simply wrong and misleading to others reading my posts.

mr6incher, I actually call it a child's dick because that's what it looks like when standing next to a child. honestly it doesn't bother me anymore. there are worse things in life that I could have been dealt with.

UKGuy, I was exactly like you when I inherited this ED. It actually helped me move on from my hatred towards the size of my dick. Once I knew what it was like to not have a functioning one at all, I realized there could be much worse things than just simply having a small dick. Also, when I say small again, I actually mean it got smaller than its original size... I know weird right? Started off making serious gains only to later end up with a dick smaller than ever before.

This is not to bash PE, because obviously many have had success, but honestly my dick getting smaller than it was before I started PE may have been some sort of self-defense mechanism. Remember not everyone reacts positively to PE excercises, which is why many come on here frustrated they've injured themselves or are not growing like others.

[UKGuy Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close UKGuy]

UKGuy, I was exactly like you when I inherited this ED. It actually helped me move on from my hatred towards the size of my dick. Once I knew what it was like to not have a functioning one at all, I realized there could be much worse things than just simply having a small dick. Also, when I say small again, I actually mean it got smaller than its original size... I know weird right? Started off making serious gains only to later end up with a dick smaller than ever before.

This is not to bash PE, because obviously many have had success, but honestly my dick getting smaller than it was before I started PE may have been some sort of self-defense mechanism. Remember not everyone reacts positively to PE excercises, which is why many come on here frustrated they've injured themselves or are not growing like others.

You're penis shrunk that sounds depressing but at you're least honest. I'm kind of getting used to this asexual state yeah it sucks but if the desire isn't there anymore I don't know what you can do about it. I mean I still turn my head if I see a woman with a nice ass or tits but not much happens downstairs I rarely ever feel horny anymore. I mean If I look at porn usually I can get an erection but it's not because I'm actually horny also my orgasm is a joke feel like nothing no kind of rush inside when I cum.

I wonder if my penis has some nerve damage it used to be so sensitive before just the slightest touch of my penis on my boxers would trigger a raging hardon these days it feels dead lifeless I can squeeze the glans rub it against things and barely feel anything. I am starting to accept I probably won't have a sex life or at least a normal satisfying one even If try to get myself aroused the erection is still shitty, weak small so naturally I don't have a lot of motivation to have sex I have little confidence in losing my virginity. I try not to be miserable but it's difficult. I've pretty much quit porn (not difficult when you're rarely horny) and forgot about women and I try and find other things to enjoy in life but I agree with other guys in this situation when you don't have much of a sex drive life feels pointless and it's hard to enjoy anything. Yeah it's easy for most guys to say there's more to life than sex but until they wake up everyday with a dead dick and hardly any desire they don't know what it's like.