Brazilian Jiu Jitsu: Not Just for the UFC

[Pegasus]

Many bjj practioners and samboists also train at judo. In the same way many kickboxers etc train at boxing.
I often feel that the quality of the coach, is more important than the style when choosing a martial art.

[youngjedi79]

I love the way mma has evolved. In the early ufc's jiu jitsu was beating out everystyle. Nowadays you don't see as many submissions in the ufc because people are becoming so well rounded at everything. I just hope the ufc gets Fedor in there to take out brock lesnar!!! I practice muay thai, judo, and jiu jitsu. It's neat to see there are guys in the ufc who use judo effectively with No Gi....(karo parisyian). To me judo is artwork. I predict in the future that you'll be seeing alot more leg attacks and different types of guard playing (rubber guard). It will constantly evolve.

[Pegasus]

What style of Ju jitsu do you do y jedi? Tell me more about your Judo training. I used to train, way back in the day.

[youngjedi79]

he pegasus. I use the traditional gi style judo during class. But when at home and with friends who I spar with we use no gi throws as well. We go by the Karo Parisyan book, alot of Gokors stuff and Mike Swain (for really great gi). Jiu jitsu is my achilles heel in that I've never been able to find an effective instructor. All my instructors I have had say that you should learn gi first and then no gi. I just want to learn no gi. So I'm waiting to find a good instructor for no gi. In my area they are very hard to find (I'm surrounded by amish). So my sparring friends use eddie bravo's half guard and antonio noguiera's full gard techniques and stephan kesting's kneebars dvd and legattacks dvds.........awesome stuff!

[toneshark]

Hey Jedi,

I've been lucky enough to have 2 great juijitsu instructors. One fights in Chuck Norris' World Combat League and taught japanese juijitsu alongside alot of other styles. But the other was a brazilian juijitsu instructor, and he was probably better or at least as good as any other trainer I could have gotten. He only charged $40 a month when he owned his own place, and you could attend unlimited classes of bjj, muay thai, etc...

He produced many great fighters - spawning an ISKA champion and a seemingly endless list of fighters who fought against everything from lesser known UFC fighters in smaller events (honestly) all the way up to pay-per-view events, and this was a small gym up a backroad in the middle of nowhere. He himself had won King of the Cage.

Anyway, the key to his success in training wasn't any specific set of moves.

What he was all about was the last 2 or 3 hours of class where we would roll.

If anyone is unfamilier with the bjj term "roll," all it is is submission wrestling, starting out on your knees.

We'd spend an hour or 2 learning new moves. A big chunk of this hour or two would be on improving things like elbow sit-outs and elevator sweeps. I think that's what these were called, as it's been a few years.

Anyway, that time where we were learning moves was great, but the times that people got good were when we were rolling.

The reason why is because after you get tapped out so many times, your body is going to start to realize when exactly it's in a position that a submission is possible, and it's going to realize when a submission is open for you.

That's my theory, at least.

I only went a a few times a week for a very brief time, and I actually got good just because I stayed and rolled my heart out.

I think you're on the the right track by using books and dvds.

We actually had a guy who used a book because he lived so far away. He and a friend would learn a few moves from the book everyday and then they'd roll, putting the bulk of their time and energy into rolling.

He (the guy with the book) was just as good, if not better than everyone else. I believe he was actually brought out to teach when the gym moved to a new place.

I can't claim that I know alot about how to be good or that I still am good, but I just wanted to tell you that you'll do just fine doing what you're doing - and that I know for a fact.

[eompow]

Hello guy's

There are a many things in life that will build confidence. PE and reading the threads have given much information and technique that will build relationships and sexual proficiency long into the future. Also in the physical world of training martial arts study does build confidence and discipline that will stay with you for a life time. Both are worth the time and effort to learn and integrate new ideas that were unknown before. Guy's commit to always be learning and experiencing new things no matter the age. As I was young I knew much, as I age I know so little. Go figure. Must be Alzheimer's.

Have a great PE day,

[Pegasus]

So young jedi, you do classes in traditional judo, but also want to do brazilian ju jitsu. Of course Judo is a parent of BJJ ,as traditional JJ is a parent of Judo.
Mike Swain was a great competitor and is well known as an instructor, the others arn't as well known to me, perhaps after my time, or better known in ufc type circles than judo circles. It is good that you have friends to train with , books and Dvd's are a great aid, but practise is central as toneshark suggests. I would say in regard to Judo, to try and train with a wide variety of people, if possible and get in competitions regularly. Have you been in many judo comps yet?

[Pegasus]

As a Judoka I find it strange that BJJ has not had more impact on judo. Judo is a parent of BJJ and continues to have impact on it's development. Judo is a parent of Sambo also ,which has had great impact on Judo which continues even to this day. There seems to be more impact from wrestling than bjj.

[Hairtrigger]

I saw on TV where the Gracies have realeased a DVD set. I didn't see a price but this would be a great way to get started in BJJ if you had a couple of freinds to go along with it.

When I was much younger I went to several Aikido seminars and always came back impressed. This art is much more layed back, fun and very instructional. I have mentioned the Aikido master in my posts before. He was about 60 or so and had a 25YO wife that was hot as hell. I remember once he took a black belt Karate Kid and rolled him around the floor with one hand and then wadded him up like a dish rag.

We all loaded up and went to a Gene LeBelle seminar several years back. It was funny (in a way) watching Gene in a pink gi roll my instructor all around the room, he always seemed to be so untouchable before then. The thing about it Gene was in his 60's at the time. It made me take another look at where the age cuttoff would be to still be able to perform some of these moves.

[Pegasus]

Hi HT good to see you here.
Ther are a number of issues to deal with as you get older, including injuries and maintaining condition. My judo sempai (judo older brother) is 50y and has bad knees which limit his mobility. He likes to have me or one of his senior students around when he coaches to get around this.
I am 49y and have no physical problems with instructing, though I rarely do it. I have seen guys in there 60's and 70's instruct in a very able and mobile way, KImura was a good example.
Doing open randori or newaza(SPARING ) is a different matter alltogether. Of course you can get injured doing this and young westerners, are not known for holding back in such situations. So as you age, you have to pick who you spar with and why.