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Old 05-11-2009   #11
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There are some supplements that have value. Creatine monohydrate is one of them, and so is whey protein (avoid the kind with added sugars and fillers). Whey protein has one of the highest Biological Value ratings and is absorbed very quickly. In terms of cost per grams of protein it's also very cost effective. I've purchased 5 lb bags from bulk items stores at great discounts, and the net also has many online stores with great deals too.
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There are some supplements that have value. Creatine monohydrate is one of them, and so is whey protein (avoid the kind with added sugars and fillers). Whey protein has one of the highest Biological Value ratings and is absorbed very quickly. In terms of cost per grams of protein it's also very cost effective. I've purchased 5 lb bags from bulk items stores at great discounts, and the net also has many online stores with great deals too.
Do you have a link to this bulk item store. the whey i use is pure whey, Very good stuff but very expensive. You see i don't like sucrolose it taste nasty so i get whey that is sweatened with stevia or xanthum gum.
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Do you have a link to this bulk item store. the whey i use is pure whey, Very good stuff but very expensive. You see i don't like sucrolose it taste nasty so i get whey that is sweatened with stevia or xanthum gum.
Bodybuilding.com - Whey Protein Products Sorted By Price Per Gram Or Serving!

Check it out. Not sure which ones fall into your category, but there's hundreds to choose from!
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Weight loss is a nutritional thing. Nutrition is always 85% of the equation, fitness is the rest.

Here is how I will break it down.

Workout only 2 - 3 times a week doing resistance training using full compound movements (squat, bench press, deadlift, pullups, dips, pendlay rows, etc) keep it under 45 minutes to keep cortisol in check ( too much cortisol supports weight gain).

Lift heavy, I mean real heavy, for 3 - 5 sets, alternate your rep and set schemes every once in a while like 3 sets of 10 reps or 5 x 5, 3 x 5, etc.


Make sure you get plenty of "Active Playtime" (I hate the word cardio..) throughout the week. I prefer running or sprinting to jogging, keep it intense and short, go swimming, or play a pick up game of bbal.


Weight loss and fat loss (two different things) is all about diet. Eat lean meats, fruits, veggies and healthy fats (think avacado, nuts, seeds, olive oil). There is no difference between eating 3 times a day versus 6 times, it is all about calories in vs. calories out and the quality of those calories.

Stay away from sugar, processed foods, and grains. Carbs form these sources support insulin resistance and thus weight gain so cut these out.

Shoot for .8 - 1.5 grams per pound of body weight in protein intake.

Stay away from supplements like hydroxycut or protein shakes. You don't need these, they are just there to get you to buy them and make the supplement companies money. They are a scam.

If you have any questions just ask away...
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Love handles are the byproduct of a high bodyfat.

To decrease your bodyfat, have a 200-500 caloric deficit, maintain a weight lifting schedule (preferably 3 day split with heavy compounds [leg/shoulders, biceps/back, triceps/chest]) with cardio 2 days a week and ab work 1-3 times a week depending on your ab recovery. Your diet should have 1g of protein per lb of body weight. Fit your carbs/fats into the 200-500 caloric defiti diet.

I guarantee they will go if you follow this. The caloric deficit alone will reduce your bodyweight. The weightlifting and the protein will make sure you maintain as much lean mass as possible so you won't burn muscle instead of fat. Also your metabolism will increase as you gain more muscle, leading to faster fat breakdown.

Its not easy but its a nice way to get a really nice body.

edit: i just saw the previous posts which pretty much backup/elaborate on what I've suggested. Damn, wasted a bit of time posting this when someone'd already done it! lol.
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I usually buy my supplements at a local "BJ's", which is a bulk retail store that usually has great discounts. They're similar to Sam's Clubs and Costcos.
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The whey protein works great to start my day. Six small meals a day--2000 calories, plus three to five miles a week of lap swimming set me on a good weight loss routine. I eat mainly veggies. Fruit and cheese are my downfall. I tend to overeat them, so I do my best to stay away from them. They seem to set me to craving more. I think whatever food plan you decide upon, you need to identify the foods that make you want more rather than those that satiate you and cut your appetite.
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I'm 18 and am overweight- 5'8" 170 pounds (not much muscle). Ive been working out and have noticed improvements all around with the exception of my "love-handles" (ironic name given to the part i hate to death). Ive tried everything from cardio, weights, and even yoga. I really want them gone by the time summer, beach season, comes around so i can impress the girl i like. I have a hectic schedule right now but do put time to workout for 30-40 minutes, 4/5 times a week.

Any tips to getting rid of those accursed fat bags? And if they can make my 'unit' bigger too even better
If you need some motivation about losing weight and getting fit, take a look at the Body for Life website: Body-for-LIFE. The before and after photos are truly amazing transformations. Here's some information on how the BFL program works: http://www.webmd.com/diet/body-for-life-what-it-is. The six snack-size meals a day is a major factor in the weight loss program, along with hitting the gym to build up some muscle. Check out the routine: 5 sets of each exercise with progressive increases in weight until Set 5, with lighter weight, that really gets the muscles into maximum fatigue. It's worked for me, but my stays at the gym usually last 1.5 to 2 hours to get it all done. I occasionally have one of their protein bars or protein drinks just because I like how they taste, but they aren't essential to achieving results.

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