[kingpole]

I don't know but that Dr douglas isn't correct. So read this controversial article abouot blood pressure. I agree with him for the most part.

Blood Pressure: Low equals "slow"

A while back (Daily Dose, 8/8/2003), I wrote an article lambasting the
American Medical Association for lowering its guidelines for healthy
blood pressure for the umpteenth time. To recap, their latest
recommendations cite anything over 115/70 (!) as being "high." Just 6
years ago, that number was 140/90 (still plenty low). If their
guidelines get much lower, any detectable pulse will qualify as "high
risk" in their eyes...

Aside from the fact that there's no evidence that high blood pressure
causes heart disease (it's often a response to the condition, but not
its cause), and the fact that salt intake is only remotely correlated
to hypertension, there's one more widespread myth about blood pressure
that most people - and their doctors - don't seem to know about:

Your blood pressure can be TOO LOW (115/75 is borderline, if you ask
me).

And now, some research from Israel shows just how big of an impact low
blood pressure can have on health - especially upon those who are
getting up in years. According to a recent Reuters online article, a
Ben Gurion University study showed that patients over 70 with what
modern standards call "mild hypertension" actually thought more
clearly and creatively than those with lower blood pressure.

Both men and women in the nearly 500-subject study whose blood
pressure was deemed high enough to warrant treatment with prescription
drugs - and also those with clinically uncontrolled (untreated)
hypertension - performed significantly better on tests of cognitive
function, memory, concentration, and visual retention. Only in tests
of verbal fluency was there no meaningful scoring advantage for the
high-BP group...

Those with "normal" blood pressure tested the worst of all three
groups in the study.

Similar studies in younger test populations yielded no difference in
performance based on blood pressure. What's this mean? It means that
physicians need to balance their efforts to control what they perceive
as risk factors for heart disease (namely, BP over 115/75) with
patients' quality-of-life concerns - like mental sharpness and
creativity.

In other words, they should stop meddling with the body and mind and
let it find its own equilibrium.

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Challenging the salt stigma

Try as I might, I've never been able to make much of a dent on the
mainstream's maligning of salt.

Even though I've shouted at the top of my lungs that salt does NOT
cause high blood pressure except in a very small percentage of people
who are abnormally salt-sensitive, the mainstream continues to portray
sodium as a killer to be shunned at all costs. And with today's
ridiculously low guidelines for "high" blood pressure - there's no
reprieve in sight for salt.

But some recent European research has concluded that an extra pinch or
two of salt per day can help the elderly to stay healthy - and that
fully 10% of older folks suffer from a sodium DEFICIENCY! This lack of
sufficient daily salt can cause nervousness, hallucinations, muscle
cramps, and even urinary incontinence.

This, amidst a UK-wide drive to reduce salt in Briton's diets!

In fact, according to a recent Nutraingredients online article, the
UK's Health Minister, Melanie Johnson, rejected a June proposal from
Britain's major food producers to reduce levels of salt in food - for
not being stringent enough! Instead, she issued more than 20 of
Britain's food giants a September ultimatum to reduce the
"unacceptably high levels of salt" in their foods.

I guess it takes more than direct scientific evidence to shake the
"salt stigma" in the hallowed halls of parliament, huh? Perhaps she
was suffering from a low-sodium-induced hallucination...

The campaign against salt - and the continuing misinformation of the
public about sodium and high blood pressure - is no less militant on
these shores. I'd hoped that after the last round of downward
revisions in the already absurdly low blood pressure standards, people
would have started to question the conventional wisdom on the topic.

Instead, we seem content with today's most popular salt substitute:
Hypertension drugs.

Here's one salty dog who never substitutes for the truth,

William Campbell Douglass II, MD

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[going411by7]

I did a quick skim of this, Kingpole, but there is another factor to keep in mind, and that is if one has other risk factors for heart disease, such as genetics, high cholesterol, diabetes, etc. Then a lower B.P. might be desirable. I have to be careful of too low a B.P. because I have normal tension glaucoma, and too low a B.P., especially diastolic, albeit temporary, can cause permanent vision loss for me.

[kingpole]

Originally Posted by going411by7

I did a quick skim of this, Kingpole, but there is another factor to keep in mind, and that is if one has other risk factors for heart disease, such as genetics, high cholesterol, diabetes, etc. Then a lower B.P. might be desirable. I have to be careful of too low a B.P. because I have normal tension glaucoma, and too low a B.P., especially diastolic, albeit temporary, can cause permanent vision loss for me.

It is a catch 22 thing really, it seems they keep lowering the numbers to get you to take blood pressure meds. Me i tend to be on the high side. I did not have high blood pressure until i started taking diabetic medications. But now it seems to be resistannt to become lower. Im giving magnesium a go see if that works for me. Green tea failed in lowering my blood pressure perhaps i was not taking enough.

[going411by7]

It is catch 22 for sure! We need the blood to get to the extremities, including our cocks, right? Does a low B.P. help in this regard? I am not sure, but I think not. Diabetes is definitely a complicating factor.

[Lazy 8]

Originally Posted by kingpole

I don't know but that Dr douglas isn't correct. So read this controversial article abouot blood pressure. I agree with him for the most part.

Blood Pressure: Low equals "slow"

A while back (Daily Dose, 8/8/2003), I wrote an article lambasting the
American Medical Association for lowering its guidelines for healthy
blood pressure for the umpteenth time. To recap, their latest
recommendations cite anything over 115/70 (!) as being "high." Just 6
years ago, that number was 140/90 (still plenty low). If their
guidelines get much lower, any detectable pulse will qualify as "high
risk" in their eyes...

Aside from the fact that there's no evidence that high blood pressure
causes heart disease (it's often a response to the condition, but not
its cause), and the fact that salt intake is only remotely correlated
to hypertension, there's one more widespread myth about blood pressure
that most people - and their doctors - don't seem to know about:

Your blood pressure can be TOO LOW (115/75 is borderline, if you ask
me).

And now, some research from Israel shows just how big of an impact low
blood pressure can have on health - especially upon those who are
getting up in years. According to a recent Reuters online article, a
Ben Gurion University study showed that patients over 70 with what
modern standards call "mild hypertension" actually thought more
clearly and creatively than those with lower blood pressure.

Both men and women in the nearly 500-subject study whose blood
pressure was deemed high enough to warrant treatment with prescription
drugs - and also those with clinically uncontrolled (untreated)
hypertension - performed significantly better on tests of cognitive
function, memory, concentration, and visual retention. Only in tests
of verbal fluency was there no meaningful scoring advantage for the
high-BP group...

Those with "normal" blood pressure tested the worst of all three
groups in the study.

Similar studies in younger test populations yielded no difference in
performance based on blood pressure. What's this mean? It means that
physicians need to balance their efforts to control what they perceive
as risk factors for heart disease (namely, BP over 115/75) with
patients' quality-of-life concerns - like mental sharpness and
creativity.

In other words, they should stop meddling with the body and mind and
let it find its own equilibrium.

************************************************** **

"JUST ONE DROP DID IT"

Scientists accidentally create amazing pain eraser...

- Works on all kinds of arthritis pain
- Soothes away pain on contact
- Back, hip & joint pain wiped out
- Natural flower extract, side-effect free
- No pills to swallow

SO POWERFUL, SEVERAL DROPS IS ALL IT TAKES! Learn more about this
all-new and improved formula!

http://clicks.douglassreport.com//t/...AQ/AgFboA/UYxe

************************************************** **

Challenging the salt stigma

Try as I might, I've never been able to make much of a dent on the
mainstream's maligning of salt.

Even though I've shouted at the top of my lungs that salt does NOT
cause high blood pressure except in a very small percentage of people
who are abnormally salt-sensitive, the mainstream continues to portray
sodium as a killer to be shunned at all costs. And with today's
ridiculously low guidelines for "high" blood pressure - there's no
reprieve in sight for salt.

But some recent European research has concluded that an extra pinch or
two of salt per day can help the elderly to stay healthy - and that
fully 10% of older folks suffer from a sodium DEFICIENCY! This lack of
sufficient daily salt can cause nervousness, hallucinations, muscle
cramps, and even urinary incontinence.

This, amidst a UK-wide drive to reduce salt in Briton's diets!

In fact, according to a recent Nutraingredients online article, the
UK's Health Minister, Melanie Johnson, rejected a June proposal from
Britain's major food producers to reduce levels of salt in food - for
not being stringent enough! Instead, she issued more than 20 of
Britain's food giants a September ultimatum to reduce the
"unacceptably high levels of salt" in their foods.

I guess it takes more than direct scientific evidence to shake the
"salt stigma" in the hallowed halls of parliament, huh? Perhaps she
was suffering from a low-sodium-induced hallucination...

The campaign against salt - and the continuing misinformation of the
public about sodium and high blood pressure - is no less militant on
these shores. I'd hoped that after the last round of downward
revisions in the already absurdly low blood pressure standards, people
would have started to question the conventional wisdom on the topic.

Instead, we seem content with today's most popular salt substitute:
Hypertension drugs.

Here's one salty dog who never substitutes for the truth,

William Campbell Douglass II, MD

************************************************** **
Interested in receiving Dr. William C. Douglass' highly acclaimed
monthly newsletter -- and FREE bonus gifts? Call (915) 849-4615 or
visit http://clicks.douglassreport.com//t/...Ag/AgFboA/IRG2

************************************************** **

Great stuff, KP! Thanks for posting it. I'm with Douglass all the way. What do you disagree with him about?

[C.Phantasy]

Great stuff KP.

[kingpole]

Originally Posted by Lazy 8

Great stuff, KP! Thanks for posting it. I'm with Douglass all the way. What do you disagree with him about?

I think blood pressure must be considered when it is in stage two hypertension. To dis regard it altogether may be premature. I do agree they keep lowering the numbers. Lower them to much and you problems as well. 115/60 is borderline to low were talking hypothyroid low. Still to much emphasis is placed on treating the symptoms rather than the cause. The cause usually being to low magnesium, potasium and calcium.

[Pegasus]

My doc says a third of people lack sodium tolerence to some degree. I seem to be one of them. Lowering sodium helped my BP. I have also increased my intake of magnesium and started with some calcium.

[Lazy 8]

Originally Posted by pegasus

My doc says a third of people lack sodium tolerence to some degree. I seem to be one of them. Lowering sodium helped my BP. I have also increased my intake of magnesium and started with some calcium.

Let us know if the added magnesium and calcium give you some benefits.

[Pegasus]

The magnesium has already helped with cramps. The blood pressure might be a long term project.