[PhibbysHammer]

Originally Posted by Nacho

What FACTS are you referring to?..........................................

As for the guy in the ER we have no idea what caused his problems or what doseage of creatine he was on I don't see how he helps your case at all.

**Twilight zone music Playing**

"my protein and creatine intake is way too high and forcing my kidneys to work harder than they are able too…Blood tests showed that..I had no idea what i was doing to my body…For those of you that may happen to read this..I caution you ..watch to make sure you are not taking too much excess protein in your diet…also creatine needs to be cycled on/ off….My blood work showed excessive levels of creatinen in my system and that w/ protein is killing my kidneys…

"acute kidney failure was reported in one case involving an athlete taking over 10 grams daily of creatine for 6 weeks."


Lets see now...........No lets don't. I'm done with this. I put my 10 cents in (yeah 10 cents, I'd like an 8 cent refund) and wish I hadn't.


Good luck with life in general if any of you have this condition where you deny reality.

[Nacho]

If I post about someone who died of a peanut allergy does that mean peanuts cause death?

[Pegasus]

Glad I don't take anything on the internet too serious.
Just for the record though I am with Nacho on this one, so is mainstream medical, for what that is worth.
Many people take megadoses of protein and creatine, which can be a problem.
So far as is now known, 10 g a day of creatine is safe for healthy people.

Will not bother with this thread further, or with people telling me man didn't go to the moon, or the holocost didn't happen etc etc.

[JonPop]

O.K. Lets drop this before there are more hard feelings created.
When a discussion goes bad, it's time to drop the discussion. Period. JP

[Pauli]

Good discussion on different medical opinions on Creatine and Protien.

I have just started going to the gym again, so i will be taking both supplements to assist in growth and recovery. I now know that i will closely monitor my dosages and have to listen to my body incase it has adverse affects. It just shows that maybe something is good for 95% of the population, but 5% may have major issues such as failure of organs from simple supplements. Those numbers i quoted are not based on any study :P.

[PhibbysHammer]

Originally Posted by Pauli

Good discussion on different medical opinions on Creatine and Protien.

I have just started going to the gym again, so i will be taking both supplements to assist in growth and recovery. I now know that i will closely monitor my dosages and have to listen to my body incase it has adverse affects. It just shows that maybe something is good for 95% of the population, but 5% may have major issues such as failure of organs from simple supplements. Those numbers i quoted are not based on any study :P.

Good Thoughts on that Pauli. Even water can be dangerous if proper care is not taken. make sure and stay hydrated by drinking lots of fresh water.

[Pegasus]

Originally Posted by PhibbysHammer

Good Thoughts on that Pauli. Even water can be dangerous if proper care is not taken. make sure and stay hydrated by drinking lots of fresh water.

Yes hydration is important when using creatine, especially if you use a loading phase.

[C.Phantasy]

Good words KP.

I made the same statement about Glutamine in my earlier PE Gym Career.

[kingpole]

Originally Posted by C.Phantasy

Good words KP.

I made the same statement about Glutamine in my earlier PE Gym Career.

You mean monosodium glutamate, right?