some theoretical questions

kwmass · 04-23-2008, 05:29 AM

Hi there,

I would like your opinion on some theoretical questions I have. Here goes:

1) What would be better? stretching your penis with light force all day long (with an ADS). Or stretching your penis for a short amount of time, with much force (like hanging with weights for 30 min. or so).

2) Does anyone ever experimented with using Near Infrared Light? I read that NASA conducted some research on this one time, and they found out that wounds can be healed much faster if there are treated with Near IR light. I figured...can this also be of some benefit for PE? It appears that IR light can speed up the healing of soft tissue, like muscles. Anyway, I ordered some IR LEDS, to experiment with it. I want to built some IR LED array and use it on my penis to try it out.

3) Does anyone know if you can grow tissue by applying a voltage or current through your penis? I read about a "ball zinger" once that you can use to increase the amount of sperm. But does it grow your penis? Once I experimented with that also, and I used a 1.5 volts battery instead of the galvanic materials used in the original design. I figured that 0,7 Volts would not be much and I didn't had the materials that you need for the original ball zinger. So I simply used 1,5 volts battery. This was a mistake....since it left 2 burn marks on my scrotum after wearing it for one day. That was the end of my experiment, but I never gave it a try again. Does it work?
Does current through tissue cause it to grow? Or not?

Any thoughts on my questions? Thanks in advance.

Iguana · 04-23-2008, 09:11 AM

kwmass,

Great questions. I don't have much time right now so I will comment only on #1...

Studies show (I can try to find references if you would like) that longer periods of moderate force stretching are much more effective than short periods of high force. High force stretching elicits a defense response in the tissues and they retract for protection. Given this information ADS devices should be more effective than short periods of hanging. The problem lies in the comfort of these devices and the ability to wear one for the time necessary to get growth. So, when it comes to weight, less is more but longer is better.

Cernunnos · 04-23-2008, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Iguana

kwmass,

Great questions. I don't have much time right now so I will comment only on #1...

Studies show (I can try to find references if you would like) that longer periods of moderate force stretching are much more effective than short periods of high force. High force stretching elicits a defense response in the tissues and they retract for protection. Given this information ADS devices should be more effective
than short periods of hanging. The problem lies in the comfort of these devices and the ability to wear one for the time necessary to get growth. So, when it comes to weight, less is more but longer is better.

Does 5 hours on a penis Extender at 1" above EL qualify as a long time with moderate stretch, short time with strong stretch, or short time with moderate stretch? On short, how much time/tension are we talking about here?

0h2B9 · 04-23-2008, 12:02 PM

I read somewere on the X4 PE forum that a user had only started to see gains, after he was stretching is penis @ 1.5" beyond his flacid state. but 5 hrs in a x4 extender even with the comfort attachment has been impossible for myself. the most I seem to manage to get in a PE device without having to take it off so my head can breath is about 2 hrs. But there are people in the forum who do manage to leave these things on longer, so it must be down to pain freshhold possibly.

Cernunnos · 04-23-2008, 04:26 PM

1.5" above EL is frickin' hard. I can get to 1" right now, and I guess eventually I'll be able to do 1", but I hope it doesn't take that long to see real gains. I already have seen some gains, ie thicker base. I read on the FastSize forum that 1" is ideal, but I don't trust the people on that forum.

remek · 04-23-2008, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Cernunnos

But I don't trust the people on that forum.

I don't blame you

I would say 5 hours with 1" would probably be a moderate stretch for a moderate amount of time. Are you doing this daily?

How many inches (longer than your penis) can you stretch your penis without causing pain?

JonPop · 04-23-2008, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by remek

I don't blame you

Why? Because their Moderator Knights don't fight by the rules? Hee (inside joke, but of course the "Black Knight" fixed that.)

Cernunnos · 04-23-2008, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by remek

I don't blame you

I would say 5 hours with 1" would probably be a moderate stretch for a moderate amount of time. Are you doing this daily?

How many inches (longer than your penis) can you stretch your penis without causing pain?

Hey remek.

I can stretch it about 1" inch above EL, and beyond that my penis seems to start really fighting back. Honestly, I've never really tried manually pulling my penis. I've got a strong instinct to not do that, like the mental thing which doesn't let you clench your teeth enough to break them, if you know what I mean.

Yeah, the FastSize forum is really weird. Everyone is so unfriendly there, and it seems like all of their moderators are out to sell something, and I've read some posts where they are really nasty to their customers.

0h2B9 · 04-24-2008, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Cernunnos

1.5" above EL is frickin' hard. I can get to 1" right now, and I guess eventually I'll be able to do 1", but I hope it doesn't take that long to see real gains. I already have seen some gains, ie thicker base. I read on the FastSize forum that 1" is ideal, but I don't trust the people on that forum.

No Cernunnos I said 1.5" beyond thier flaccid (Non Errect) state. I have been managing that quiet easly and have seen gains already. I'm stretching my flaccid state at present @ just over the 7" mark

Cernunnos · 04-24-2008, 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by 0h2B9

No Cernunnos I said 1.5" beyond thier flaccid (Non Errect) state. I have been managing that quiet easly and have seen gains already. I'm stretching my flaccid state at present @ just over the 7" mark

Ah.

That sounds more reasonable. Have you seen length gains, girth gains, or both? How many hours have you been using it? I'm at around my 200 hour mark, and I think I may have gained a little bit of length, and some base girth. But this is subjective. I don't want ot measure, because that can be demoralizing in my experience.