Best seduction tips and skills

[Hanma]

Variety is the spice of life... amirite?

No it's not. The mind is the spice, sugar, the flavour of life. And there's not much variety when most minds are being controlled and programmed in a certain way. I'm looking at feminism and the western culture. Nothing wrong with equality however it has caused more inequality and frustration and anyone with an open mind can see it.


In short, crazy women are on the rise, deluded by fantasy and men are not men for themselves, they are becoming the type of men THEY want, and we know how being fake and conformity turns out.

I see females as human beings. But do I see them deserving of my attention and affection? A vast majority of the time, not. It doesn't mean I'm going to use them as sex toys - if I find a woman who is worthy of my effort, then sure. Otherwise, nothing of value was lost.

[Toadstool]

It's not about not mentioning *anything* about yourself. It's about keeping the conversation geared towards her so that you build interest in her to keep talking to you.
If some stranger approaches you and talks about themselves... You'd be bored. Who the fuck is this guy accosting me? But if they show interest in the things you're interested in, then suddenly it's a different story. You want to talk to them because they want to hear what you have to say.

I'll drop some information about myself, but for the first meeting I'll keep it at a 90:10 ratio... where 90% is directed about her, and 10% about me.
What I did wrong that night was talk too much about myself. I played other things right, obviously - she kissed me. But it wasn't perfectly executed. That's okay, because it's a learning experience.

@Hockey:
I gave you negative rep because you can't seem to talk about something without getting so emotionally involved that you start with name-calling. It's ironic that you'll call me young and then fire out with the name calling.
Where's your respect? Why can't you have a conversation with someone about a subject you disagree on?

I don't think you should be replying to this thread anymore. You have nothing to contribute. Don't make me run to a mod and tattle tale on you! 'Cause I will!

The mind is the spice, sugar, the flavour of life
I see females as human beings. But do I see them deserving of my attention and affection? A vast majority of the time, not. It doesn't mean I'm going to use them as sex toys - if I find a woman who is worthy of my effort, then sure. Otherwise, nothing of value was lost.

If every mind was the same, it'd be a very boring world indeed. Differences in those minds and understanding where they come from is a great hobby of mine. I like the variety in people.
Personally, I see everyone as deserving of my time until they prove otherwise. I have a certain level of respect for everyone that either goes up or down depending on how they act. Everyone has something of value and if they flatter me by sharing something of themselves with me (a piece of their mind) then I'll return that effort with genuine interest.


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So, I went on a date with the girl I met at the protest.
We got lost looking for the museum and spent an hour outside, walking around and talking. She's really easy to get along with and I was enjoying the whole time quite a bit.
At some point as we approached the museum, I reached for her hand and asked her if it was okay to hold her. She pulled back and stopped walking and said she had a boyfriend.
I found it strange. She apologized if she led me on, but she was here only out of the interest of friendship.
I was cool with that. She's a genuinely interesting and fun person to be around. We spent 5 and a half hours talking about culture, about natives, religion, food. She's only 18, but she's very mature and very confident. Sometimes there were lengthy pauses in conversation, but it felt natural.

But still, I am disappointed that she's dating someone. ): Oh well. If we stay friends long enough, maybe something could be sparked.
I want more intellectuals in my life anyway, and having hot friends will only raise my social value. I'm disappointed, but I still came out a winner

[Hanma]

If every mind was the same, it'd be a very boring world indeed. Differences in those minds and understanding where they come from is a great hobby of mine. I like the variety in people.
Personally, I see everyone as deserving of my time until they prove otherwise. I have a certain level of respect for everyone that either goes up or down depending on how they act. Everyone has something of value and if they flatter me by sharing something of themselves with me (a piece of their mind) then I'll return that effort with genuine interest.

Their minds are becoming the same. Like I mentioned, social programming is toxic. And I know you'll agree when I say that one of the reasons society is crumbling because there is no variety of minds. I want you to have a moment with yourself and ask yourself "Am I truly free? Am I truly thinking for myself, or just doing what I am expected to think?" Because everyone can think about picking up girls, the related frustration, bills, jobs, etc. But who really questions their existence, their role in life, their mind's potential, things like that? Thinking beyond what we're being fed, coming up with different answers, developing our inner selves, things that actually matter for us.

If we all did that then yes there would be a variety. Who else questions our behavior and thinking patterns and realise that we're all being toyed with? What I see is conformity and a bunch of hopeless, misguided people trying to be themselves because they are TOLD what to do and how to do it.

And all this "game" thing about picking up women? It is a form of manipulation - giving inputs to their already programmed minds and getting the output you want. Nothing real about it, nothing "fun" or thrilling, or new. How am I supposed to give my unconditional love to people like that? That's not love, that'd be my attention.

[Toadstool]

I'm going to make a thread called "player haters" for all of you who want to participate in this thread but don't want to follow along with the topic.
Hanma - I want to discuss what you posted. I'm interested in what you have to say.
But let's take it to the new thread and keep this one for PUAs/people who want to learn/share in pickup.
okay?
okay!
Let's go~

[EQKing]

Once u get to know pickup ..... IT'S SO NATURAL !!!!

[EQKing]

We as men it's part of our duty to try and get laid with as many women by pursuing and getting them attracted to us ..... although this process is natural, can be learnt as well to make ourselves more efficient ..... Women on the other hand have their duty to get male attention from as many males as possible so they can choose the ones with the fittest DNA (That's what they think ) ..... They use tools called Makeups, high heels, mini kirts and what not ..... we use tools called Pickups ....

[TheSperminator]

@ hanma, @ Hockey_NY

Our primary role in life is survive and replicate .. It's the reason why sex feels so good and there are men and women .. We need to reproduce.

Social programming is necessary, if not society would be chaotic. If everyone would be free to do what they want dude could you imagine what the world would look like?

You guys take pick-up waaaay to serious .. It's manipulative? yes, a little! .. But when your meeting somebody new, and you for instance tell a joke .. isn't that manipulation? You learned a joke, you knew he would probably laugh and like you more.. EVERYTHING is manipulation. Think about that..
You can't escape it. When you go vote, you're manipulated .. Doesn't matter what you say or think, you've been manipulated, wich made you choose for that particular person.

Ofcourse it's important to develop yourself into the person you'd love to be. But manipulation also made you think "I need to improve myself, what is my mind's potential?, etc" .. THE IDEAS YOU NOW HAVE ABOUT PICK-UP ARE MANIPULATED.

All the stuff you have, it's all manipulated..

Pick-up is small manipulation, nothing compared to what world leaders CEO's -hell even your parents- do.. And look? aren't they succesful persons? And don't sell me bullshit now about your parents being poor or anything. They raised you and learnt you what to do in social settings, wich is learning but also manipulation, because you agree to behave in a way in a social setting that is known to be "normal". Manipulation is necessary.

+ As if all girls are angels even the sweetest girls sometimes use their sweetness to their advantage. It's human nature, we like to have control over others and be the best at and in everything. Pick-up is a necessity for some guys to reproduce, we all want to be and find love(d), pick-up can put you on the right path .. Peacocks use their tale to seduce women, it's all manipulation man .. I can go on and on about this..

As the basic meaning of the word says manipulation is handling for one own's advantage .. As if you never manipulated in your life .. (@ hanma)

I'm sorry man but flirting with women, I really don't see what the big deal is. Women also learn how to seduce men: wink at him, put on make-up, wear high heels, or just be friendly .. It's a seduction game, a pairing dance actually. And if you don't play the game, you can't win.

+ the result isn't 100% sure, you can always get rejected, the women still choose wether they want to get to know you better or not .. You can't put on a mask forever .. and when your true colors shine and she still enjoys you for who you truly are, then my friend, a pick-up was succesful (for me)

grtz

NOTE: I want this discussion to be mature, in a worstcase-scenario we can agree that we disagree sounds fair to me.

EDIT: If you like to answer my comment please do this in the thread "player haters" Player Haters Saw it to late that this thread was already made

[Toadstool]

nicely said guys. I wish I said it like that.

One problem with the PUA world is that it's all-consuming. I lose track of my life with the amount of girls I can pick up. It's addictive!
Time management and balance is the key... I realize. Anyone else have this problem? The internal conflict of seeing a beautiful woman you know you can get, but stopping yourself because you couldn't possibly make the time for her.
I wish there were more hours in the day...
and that I didn't need to sleep.

Whoa. I really started something huge in the player haters forum.
Take a look and please post something. I think they're all misinformed.

[TheSperminator]

C'mon guys, keep the thread alive

I'll start with some advice: always match your belt with your shoes get 2-3 good pair of shoes, more if you have the cash for it.

@ toad: I know what you mean. When I discovered it I started reading like crazy, couldn't remember everything. Watching video's etc.. I never dared to try it out all the stuff i've red. And this is key I think: you can read as much as you want, you really need to try it in the field (at a bar or mallcenter, PUAjargon) or else you'll get bored reading etc. You won't come to a point where you have so much knowledge you can pick up any girl. You really need to go out there and fail. Failure is the key to succes.

grtz

[Learns]

@Brainsick I'd like to disagree with you as far as the effectiveness of studying. I see that your from belgium so I'm guessing you know a bit about hardstyle shuffle. I'm american and shuffling is not very popular here, so EVERYTHING that I learned about the dance is from youtube. And what I found most effective while learning to shuffle is watching hours of videos and studying their movements. Then while I was on the bus towards school, or bored in a lecture at school I would imagine myself shuffling, and found that when I actually did practice the movements came easy to me.

I plan on using this same method to learn to pick up girls. I literally stayed up till like 3am last night watching pick up video's by "simple pickup" on youtube. From what I'm understanding their tactics are a bit different then some of the field reports I've seen on this thread with rules like "90% about her 10% about you". Was wondering if you would check out their videos and give me your opinion on how they go about things.