The Anatomy of the Female Orgasm

[CaptainJohnson]

I have seen enough posts on here asking questions about this subject and I feel my blog wasn't cutting it so here is a full description:

Clitoris

The clitoris is like a tiny button protruding from under the clitoral hood.

Diagram of Vagina (External)

As you can see, if you follow the labia minora up to where both sides meet, you will find the clitoris just above it. The clitoris is an extremely sensitive part of female anatomy and it is the most commonly stimulated location for aiding women to achieve orgasm. This can be done with one's hands, tongue, or a variety of toys. It is so sensitive, that most often it is best to avoid direct stimulation until arousal is already underway.

G-Spot

The g-spot has entered the realm of sexual folklore. It is described as a magical spot that allows women to achieve orgasms within their vagina, from penetrative stimulation. Many doubt its existence, since not every woman has been able to achieve one.

First, let us review a quick history of the g-spot. Freud was the first person to popularize the idea of the vaginal orgasm. He believed that the clitoral orgasm is an immature version of the vaginal orgasm, which women are supposed to naturally switch to upon puberty. I often call this "the words that set off a million fake orgasms". Freud's theory left a huge number of women feeling inadequate, since so many could not achieve a vaginal orgasm, let alone any orgasm. Today, most of Freud's theories have been debunked, and even openly mocked, by the psychological community, including this one. After Freud, a man named Ernst Grafenberg came along. He believed he found a spot inside a woman that could be stimulated to cause an orgasm "from the inside". This finding was from studying stimulation through the female urethra, but gained vast popularity within the public as a form of orgasm through stimulation within the vaginal canal. The subject is still debated, but it is becoming more widely accepted as an actual erogenous zone.

Diagram of the G-spot within the vaginal canal

The g-spot is supposedly 1 to 2 inches inside the vaginal canal, just before what is often described as a "spongy golf-ball-sized object". From viewing the diagram above, you can see that the g-spot is theorized to be right before a dip in the vaginal canal that is caused by the bladder. Common ways to stimulate this spot is through use of one's fingers, through intercourse, or using toys.


THE DEEP SPOTS

Pic 1: This diagram shows the AFE and PFE Zones
Pic 2: A simplified diagram that renames the AFE and PFE as the front and back deep spots

The next section has to do with a subject that is frequently misunderstood, and not commonly known. The term "deep spot" was popularized by David Shade, a PUA and seduction specialist. Originally, he described the deep spot as a ring around the cervix where a woman is uniquely sensitive. As information poured out about erogenous zones that were already labelled around the same locations, he redefined the deep spot as existing within the "cavity of the cervix". This definition grew to include two spots, one on the anterior and one on the posterior walls of the vagina. Unfortunately, for David Shade, these spots had already been named...

Arousal and its importance to the deep spots: As a woman is aroused, her vagina lengthens and dilates. This is a process known as vaginal tenting, or ballooning. Often, during initial arousal, the vagina extends from approximately 3 inches to 5 or 6 inches deep. Since the vagina is a potential space, when a penis enters, it attempts to accommodate its size, lengthening to around 7 to 8 inches deep. One of the late stages of vaginal tenting (and lengthening) causes the cervix to back up and ascend slightly. This opens up a new portion of the vagina. This portion can be described as a "cavity" much as David Shade has described it. Within, one can find two "cavities" that be stimulated.

Anterior Fornix Erogenous Zone (AFE Zone)

This erogenous zone can be found along the anterior wall. It is within the anterior fornix, a cavity in the anterior wall deep within the vaginal canal. It is often called the A-Spot or epicentre. It also is the location of the recto-uterine pouch.

Posterior Fornix Erogenous Zone (PFE Zone)

This erogenous zone can be found along the posterior wall. It is within the posterior fornix, but differs anatomically from the anterior fornix. First of all, this space is a bit deeper. This spot is also called the U-Spot or Cul-de-Sac. It can also be stimulated from the anus. Stimulation to the PFE Zone is often connected to the sudden onset of the female ejaculatory response, although many women can "squirt" with stimulation to other spots. Some women will not "squirt" even with this spot.

The names of these two spots are often mixed up. Whether there is a major difference between the spots is not clear.


Orgasm and its connection to the Skene's Gland

The Skene's Gland is now also referred to as the female prostate. The Skene's Gland is somewhere around the vulva and is believed to be responsible for the release of female ejaculatory fluid. It is connected to why the g-spot may cause squirting, as the neural cluster known as the g-spot is located just below the bladder, much as the prostate is in males. I personally believe that something was missed in this assessment, as it is clear the recto-uterine pouch seems to be even more connected to squirting. It is currently believed the recto-uterine pouch is the same as the recto-vesicular pouch. Since the recto-vesicular pouch in males is located right next to the seminal vesicles, I think that the the large number of neurons that can be found in the prostate also exist at the recto-uterine pouch. This fits with why the deep spots have a stronger connection to squirting. The reason the PFE may be more connected to squirting than the AFE is possibly just because it is easier to effectively aim for. Essentially, what I believe, as do many others, is that a neural cluster exists around the deep spot that would originally have been the prostate. My belief is supported by one other theory...

The Clitoral Root

The clitoral root is a path of neurons that run from the clitoris, up the tissue that lines the anterior wall of the vagina. Research into it has led to the development of the theory that the g-spot is a unique location along the vaginal anterior wall where the neurons collect most, and dip down closest, to the inside of the vaginal canal. The basic idea is that the neurons are not "in" the vagina, but are inside the tissue slightly above it, so proper pressure from within the vagina can stimulate this neural path. Pressure on different parts of this neural path will feel different, which accounts for the different feelings a woman can get from a g-spot orgasm and a clitoral orgasm. One can also gather from this, that the same clitoral root may be responsible for orgasms from the a-spot. Since all the neurons and muscles are bundled within and around the vagina, any sensation within one part can trigger similar reactions in others. This explains why squirting can happen regardless of the stimulated area, whether it is the clitoris, g-spot, a-spot, or u-spot.

The Pelvic Floor

The pelvic floor muscles are responsible for the contractions within the vagina during arousal, tenting, and orgasm. These same muscles are what collect blood to the pelvic region, and possibly aid in triggering neural stimulation. In men, we see the pelvic floor squeeze on the cluster of neurons surrounding the prostate within the rectum, as a man reaches orgasm. Within women, orgasms are much more subtle, but there have been correlations made between pelvic floor muscles and the female orgasm.

Firstly, it has been shown that women who have stronger pelvic floors are more readily able to experience vaginal orgasms. Whether this strengthens their already existing orgasms, makes these types of orgasms more frequent, or even gives a woman her first vaginal orgasm all depends on the individual.

Second, a connection between a strong pelvic floor and squirting has been made. The stronger the pelvic floor, the more likely the squirter, but not always.

Third, women with uniquely strong pelvic floors have shown a unique ability: they can masturbate by simply flexing their PC muscles. Imagine a woman flexing repeatedly to stimulate her clitoral root over and over again. This is actually done by using the muscles to clench down on the tissue surrounding the neural path from the clitoris. As a woman does this, she can slowly stimulate herself to orgasm. This third point brilliantly illustrates the connection between the clitoral root, pelvic floor muscles, and vaginal orgasms.

My attempt at a decent summary:

So the best guess I can give, is that the clitoral root is similar to the dorsal nerve in the male penis. It runs up until it reaches a cluster of nerves that collect behind the bladder and near the cervix. This cluster of nerves runs around the cervix to the posterior side where the seminal vesicles would develop in a male. The bladder pushes down on tissue in a shallower part of the vaginal canal that makes the clitoral root more accessible to stimulation from within the vagina. Strong pelvic floor muscles aid in the collection of blood within the pelvis, and to the erogenous zones. As arousal continues, contractions within the muscles also aid in stimulating the nerves that lead to orgasm.

I hope this clears some stuff up and is educational for everyone. Sorry if I made any mistakes, I get lost in all this crazy stuff sometimes

Have fun making bed stains.

- Captain J

[bahamaboner71]

To add, I found this very helpful:

this video shows you how to stimulate the deep spot/A spot.The Deep Spot - Video Dailymotion

[imac]

Posterior Fornix Erogenous Zone (PFE Zone)

This erogenous zone can be found along the posterior wall. It is within the posterior fornix, but differs anatomically from the anterior fornix. First of all, this space is a bit deeper. This spot is also called the U-Spot or Cul-de-Sac. It can also be stimulated from the anus. Stimulation to the PFE Zone is often connected to the sudden onset of the female ejaculatory response, although many women can "squirt" with stimulation to other spots. Some women will not "squirt" even with this spot.

The names of these two spots are often mixed up. Whether there is a major difference between the spots is not clear.

The U spot is actually the area between the clitoris and the vagina opening, this includes the opening of the urethra. Hence the U spot.

A lot a women find stimulation of the U spot irritating, but some absolutely love it.

[CaptainJohnson]

The U spot is actually the area between the clitoris and the vagina opening, this includes the opening of the urethra. Hence the U spot.

A lot a women find stimulation of the U spot irritating, but some absolutely love it.

Common mistake. I have heard that too. What you are actually talking about is the frenelum on a woman.

Edit: Scratch that... they are calling the frenelum the U spot on a LOT of net searches...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frenulum_clitoridis

Thats the spot.

Anyway, it sounds dumb to me. U-spot works for something a) shaped like a U, and b) below the uterus. I have heard it refer to the cul de sac many times.

I just think a frenelum is a frenelum. Why make it a spot? In that case, guys would have a U spot too. Its a bit silly. You could even call the clitoris the C spot and suddenly it might catch on...

I think it is a bit odd to call the PFE the A Spot or the P spot when the terms are being used for other stuff. If U Spot has two meanings too now, guess we need a new name for the PFE again?

[bigmoe5067]

now we just need a "physiology of the female orgasm' and we are all set. maybe when i find some time from the massive load of material staring at me, i will put something together. a little mixture of sound proven science, and anecdotal.

the endocrinology, neurology, tactile physiology and the relationships that connect them to arousal are so multi-faceted and intertwined. ive done so much studying of these using stimulation overload in some combination of the erogenous zones, and even still i have just the basis of thier relationships. eventually i will find the "10 minute orgasm" i want so hard to find. it is just so hard to break down the female orgasm because so much of how arousal is utilized is in an emotional context, along with the fact that all women are desensitized in different ways to their preferred form of stimulation. when considering this, there is no single formulaic method of manipulating arousal and method of stimulation to a steady state orgasm, and one must have prior knowledge of relative sensitivities to a specific womens erogenous zones.

too bad women are still second class citizens, if they werent we would have much more research on the dynamics of the female orgasm. in all my searching i have only found the fundamentals.

[bigmoe5067]

and to be clear i dont consider women second class, but the difference in size of the knowledge base of scientific material, wage disparity, and current legislation warrant me saying that.

i have made my girlfriend orgasm for upwards of 5 minutes before, using a very large dildo, a 5 speed magic wande, and a long time training myself to stay consistent with tempo and depth. she however has always been multi -orgasmic, and if wasnt until extreme desensitization ( a 10x7 cock couldnt make her cum now), that she became able to sustain orgasms for significant periods of time. so back to the relationships. desensitization to an extent must be a contributing factor...but how? maybe it removes the idea/concept of over stimulation so if arousal is high enough, there is no limit to increasing stimulation, so if stimulation is continuously increased after the orgasm takes places the orgasm will continue since their cant be overstimulation.

this would seem to make sense, since most women i know who have zero refractory period didnt used to be that way, it came with time and sexual experience. to an extent desensitization comes with sexual experience.

all pure speculation, but interesting non the less.

[bigmoe5067]

also coming back to original anatomy of the thread. i think its also the internal pressures built from root lock that put pressure on the nerves in play. a strong diaphragm, and transverse abdominals are also important in building an orgasm. this has to be since contraction of these muscles massage the lower aorta and the gonadal artery that feeds off of it, increasing circulation and arousal. every girl know with experience told me they clench their abs in , and do a diaphragm lock when they orgasm to increase the intensity. im sure the pressure itself is also pleasurable in the same context of the pressure created by the pelvic floor squeeze, and then the subsequent release after.

[CaptainJohnson]

Okay, how did women being "second class citizens" get pulled into this?

The reason we don't have more research in that field is 1) it is not financially beneficial, and 2) there is more important crap do deal with, like cancer, aids, etc. Almost nobody wants to fund sex research since it is really insignificant at the moment to our well-being. People, companies, governments, etc, all want to put their money into things that are worthwhile, which frankly this is not.

No matter how much an understanding you have of the physiological phenomena that lead to orgasm, you will not gain mastery over it. I posted this anatomical guide because people wanted to know, and have been talking about it. It gives them a working understanding of why and how orgasms happen within women, and where the general locations are for good stimulation. Ultimately, these locations differ from woman to woman.

When it comes to applying one's knowledge during sex, the information above simply allows a guy to guide his dick to possible places that may feel good. It doesn't do anything else. The most important factors of sex is mood, emotions, focus, and mental state. As mentioned before, some women can bring themselves to orgasm with only their muscles. As I have mentioned in other threads, orgasms can occur without any stimulation. Basically, a woman's ability to orgasm is up to their own body. Their own unique situation will dictate whether they can or can't. Men put FAAAAR too much focus on it.

Men should instead focus on being great lovers regardless of orgasm. If a girl can't orgasm, she can still appreciate good sex. Men seem to think that not bringing a girl to orgasm is somehow a sign they are bad lovers. I know girls that can orgasm quite readily, and they have still had bad sex, even with an orgasm. Guys should know this better than anyone, since guys almost always pop a load.

Good sex is good sex. Period.

Everything mentioned above is just fun facts, and knowing this stuff does not decide a good lover from a bad.

[CaptainJohnson]

Oh, u posted stuff after your original post. I really enjoyed your third post. In your second post you made an excellent point about your girlfriend already being multi-orgasmic. A large portion of this is just a matter of the individual.

As I said in my above post, men put too much pressure on themselves to make women orgasm from vaginal penetration, thinking it is the only sign of a good lover.

I think, speaking as someone who is incredibly interested in everything to do with sex, that knowing about orgasms, how they work, and how arousal functions, is great. I just don't think guys should pressure themselves so much.

What was that old phrase? Knowledge sets you free. It really does. If you let your knowledge restrict you, or seek knowledge within some sort of mental boundary, you are limiting yourself.

[bigmoe5067]

i agree with you for the most part. i want argue with you about the second class part but research into male impotence is much much much more vast than research on women suffering from vaginal disorders. the difference is there. i dont want to continue on that path though, at all. im in full support of this thread, but approaching it from an anatomy only context leaves it kind of hollow. not that thats your fault. the lack of sound information available is at fault. there isnt even that much statistical data, on what is the most important factor that would result in orgasm, whether it be emotional or in a physical context. and sexual vitality is an important part of longevity.

interesting little fact about squirting. a recent study hooked up a catheder to womens bladders and induced them to a squirting orgasm. they found that marginal amounts of urine were released into the catheder upon squirting....so squirting may or not have urine it. its women dependant, but some women do urinate when they squirt, to a very small degree. it does leave up to debate the testing effects on the study