[Vanil]

Now I've read that story 8 years ago and what I still don't understand is the part about being able to do edging just by jelqing. To me, jelqing feels very different than masturbation and I come nowhere close to the PONR when I jelq. So how were these people able to bring themselves to near orgasm by milking the shaft? Shouldn't they have been conditioned to lose that early sensitivity after a while?

[IdealPenis]

I think that the sensitivity of a person that haven't had any sexual stimulation(masturbation, sex) is very high. This receptivity to this stimulus(jelq) is understandable because is about young boys.
We do not have all the data of this tradition unfortunately.

Vanil, how old are you and how long time ago you began your sexual life and/or masturbate?

[IdealPenis]

Another story..
Stretching this time.

"Men who use weights have been probably benn encouraged by sotries brought back frim India and Africa. The Indian sadhus,for example, are said to put some of their boys on a regimen of penis weight training from the age of six. By the time these boys reach manhood their penises are extraordinarily long-and correspondendingly thin. The chosen adult sadhus wear their penises knotted up insede cloth baskets. They belive a lengthened penis brings a close to god. When it comes to sexual intercourse, they're useless."

[W.M.P.]

Originally Posted by NoS

So please bear with me and at least assume that are true stories.

As someone who spends his life immersed in the arduous task of scientific study, I can't just "assume" anything as true by simple face value of anecdotes. There's no doubt that there has been a culture of "cultivating the penis" since the beginning of humanity; hanging and all other kinds of contraptions and exercises have been practiced for hundreds or maybe even thousands of years. However, to assume any one particular account as true, would be to go down the same road of those who claim that music originated in Africa or that martial arts originated in China. There's plenty of evidence that martial arts came about on their own in each and every continent just like music was always a basic form of human expression in each and every ancient tribe all over the world. We actually had a young man who signed up at Betterman to ask for advice on how to exercise his penis because he was about to get married and he wanted to provide his future wife with the best cock possible; interestingly enough, this man was a full blooded, born and bred ARAB. He joined an American forum so that he could get some PE advice all the way over on the other side of the world, in an ARAB country. If jelquing was in fact such an ingrained staple of male Arab culture (which is part of the claim on this widespread anecdote; jelquing has supposedly been "alive & kickin'" all the way to present times in Arab culture and it's practice is widespread and common) then how come this man decided to tackle an obvious language barrier and sign up @ Betterman when he could've just asked any male relative or acquaintance for advice on what is suposedly as much of a cultural staple in male Arab culture as Pizza is on the streets of New York? Catch my flow, buddy?

[IdealPenis]

All I want to say is the same thing. There are this stories and many others that talk about the penis culture. If you will read my posts you will not found the afirmation "Jelqing is origineted in the 'X' place".
About that story it dose not surprise me. Although you are not saing if he was a sudanese arab! The story I was quoted was about sudanese arabs.

Either way I don't see were we don't agree now.

[W.M.P.]

Originally Posted by NoS

About that story it dose not surprise me. Although you are not saing if he was a sudanese arab! The story I was quoted was about sudanese arabs. Either way I don't see were we don't agree now.

Arab culture is Arab culture regardless of whether it is Sudanese, Saudi, etc; even if it had actually originated in Sudan, it would still be a widespread, common practice all over the rest of the Arab world.

I'm still enjoying your findings regardless of lack or abundance of veracity; it's fun to read stories and anecdotes like these so keep bringing in as many as you find. It's all good, buddy.

[IdealPenis]

Originally Posted by W.M.P.

Arab culture is Arab culture regardless of whether it is Sudanese, Saudi, etc; even if it had actually originated in Sudan, it would still be a widespread, common practice all over the rest of the Arab world.

I disagree!
It is like I would say that "all latin people are the same and have the same tradition". Latin people means: Italian, French, Spanish, Romanian, etc. So Arabs means: Algeria, Chad, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait, United Arab Emirates etc.
Yes you can talk about a culture of all arabs or of all latins, but there are traditions that are specifice to a certain area(geographic, political, local, linguistic, ).

And about the story of jelqing, maybe is just a story or maybe it is a story wich isn't 100% accurate. Maybe there is/was this tradition among sudanese arabs, but maybe the tradition was for upper classes. . . . maybe..

[W.M.P.]

Originally Posted by NoS

I disagree!
It is like I would say that "all latin people are the same and have the same tradition". Latin people means: Italian, French, Spanish, Romanian, etc. So Arabs means: Algeria, Chad, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait, United Arab Emirates etc.
Yes you can talk about a culture of all arabs or of all latins, but there are traditions that are specifice to a certain area(geographic, political, local, linguistic, ).

I agree with your statement; the thing is that there's tons of different versions on "Pay for PE" websites where they give all kinds of variations on the "Ancient Arab Technique known as Jelquing"; some of them even try sound quite mystical by stating that it originated with the early settlers of ancient Babylon (known today as Iraq)...so go figure. Either way, all that matters is that those of us here at PE Gym and other PE forums are learning the fine art of jelquing and that's good enough for me.

[IdealPenis]

[kingpole]

Intetresting but i think PE was gathered from all corners of the earth. This tantric and yoga penis exercises from India and China.