The "100 days" Challenge

[replicon]

Hey all, long time no see!

During my recent travels, I ran into a Shaman who thought a group of people some stuff. Just some Qigong and other meditative stuff.

One of the things he did was an initiation for a 100 day (really 80-120 depending on stuff) undertaking that requires discipline and daily practice.

It's about building up sexual energy over time. Now, let me just say that I'm result-oriented, and my beliefs about whether "energy" (in that newagey sense) is real don't matter here. It might be real. Or, people who claim to feel it flow through them are really just feeling increased blood flow from the breathing exercises (which pushes blood out of big organs like your stomach, if it's been camping out there). As long as it's useful to PRETEND that it's there, I don't mind pretending. Get it? I separate the model from the reality. Kind of like how Newton's model of mechanics is just kind of an approximation of reality... but it's useful to pretend that it's real for most practical applications.

...anyway, the daily practice is not that bad... just 20 minutes of stuff... The part that requires a lot more discipline is that it is verboten to blow your load during this period. You can have all the foreplay you want, and pleasure your partner, but you cannot orgasm/ejaculate, or else you ruin it and have to start over.

Every 15 days or so, the exercises change.

I've decided to go forward with this and give it a shot. It sounds like something that might be interesting. I figure, in the worst case, I'll learn to take my time even more with pleasuring my partner and really exploring her body, etc. In the best case... who knows!

So anyway, the question is, anyone here had any experience with this kind of stuff?

[Pegasus]

Yes there are guys on the forum into taoist style practise and some into tantra. Many swear by it as a health/meditation/religious practise and of course they have long practised male multi orgasm (mmo). Have no comment on the spiritual/religious bit.

On the MMO side however, they often do exercises such as breathing through the soles of the feet and astral travel, as a "necessary prerequisit" to the actual mmo training. This can take years and is quite pointless from a mmo point of view. Now it may have religious value etc. However anyone seeking MMO ,can ditch the religon and just go straight to the MMo training.
Sorry about the sidetrack,hope you find the training of value.

[doupdoupdoup]

It works man. Semen holds a lot of energy. Semen is more potent in holding certain types of vitality than blood.

But if you want to know the truth, the benefits of this are limited based on different factors and other lifestyle choices the person chooses. You can have semen and make semen every day and still have the energy leak away and the semen basically go rotten inside of us, that is no good. If you want to do this practice you should know at least how to feel vitality or exchange energy with the environment and purge out toxic qi.

Also, if you hold out on ejaculation you should eat a good diet. Ejaculating is unhealthy if your food is rotten or if you have some sort biota imbalance.

The practice of abstinence is the same theory as in fasting. In fasting your body stops putting resources on the enzymes in the stomach and the rest of the gut lining, and then instead starts using diverting those resources or enzyme prefactors or even the enzymes themselves depending on how everything is transported into the blood stream to cleanse the body. During fasts people notice that they feel a lot more clean, they notice creaky joints don't feel so creaky anymore, a mind that felt lethargic no longer feels lethargic, they may notice their skin looks a lot better. It's because of energy being diverted into a task that makes more sense for the body. But in abstinence the seminal fluid being composed of high quality ORMUS, electrolytes, pre stem cell factors, pre neuron factors, all those prefactors and resources get diverted into other places in the body, like the spine, or the ganglion centers. Did you know that the intestines where the lower dan tien is loaded with neuron-like factors and peptides. The esoteric Christian people talk about the blood starting to contain sexual energy.

I know that it does work, but you have to be competent before hand to get any results. If you don't know what you are doing and try it you might end up worse than before. So people should read up on micro cosmic orbitals, qigong purging or cleansing techniques, qi gong cultivation, dan tien packing, falun gong, sun gazing, kidney tonifying, perineum control, spiritual techniques, etc. The biggest thing is to focus on pumping the sexual energy upwards up the spine and down the front of the body. You can also look up craniosacral therapy, and that explains the pump at the bottom of the back of our skull and at the base of our spine.

I just fooled with it for awhile and I felt a lot more spiritual afterwards. I don't think that 100 days are necessary. It's more a plus or minus thing. Mainly a minus thing, especially if you are younger. If you are young 18-22 you probably can cultivate the desired effect in 33 days. But it shows fortitude and the maturity and self-control to abstain for the whole 100 days. Basically I'm a lot more sensitive to energy and can manipulate it a lot better than before.

[replicon]

Thanks for the detailed post, doup^3. I'm wondering, if I do feel great as I do it and end the practice, is there a way to maintain the better state without abstaining so much? Like, is there a minimal "upkeep" sort of thing you can do without being so strict, and while maintaining all the benefits?

[kingpole]

Ejaculation is cleansing.

[doupdoupdoup]

Ejaculation is cleansing! That's the main reason we feel so eager to ejaculate. Spiritualist in shamanism, eso christians, daoist, say that the semen and sexual fluids if not protected will get spoiled from bad energies and the person will then feel invoked to spill it out as a self defense mechanism. There are Russian psychic study that was able to observe the reaction in the testis to different magnetic fields. That is why these guys massage the areas and try to control the thoughts and energies in that region. If they cultivate bad things, thoughts or eat bad foods, it will make them sick and go crazy or get irritation.

Thanks for the detailed post, doup^3. I'm wondering, if I do feel great as I do it and end the practice, is there a way to maintain the better state without abstaining so much? Like, is there a minimal "upkeep" sort of thing you can do without being so strict, and while maintaining all the benefits?

Yeah once you get there, well once you feel you've attained the benefits, you already have enriched the energy centers and nervous system. Once there is a strong abundance of qi in the energy system, it's easier to cultivate energy and to make sure it's not leaking, and to do microcosmic orbitals and semen energy sucking to higher centers.

The best way to upkeep that better state is to practice the energy cultivation exercises, not to over exert the body, and to have sex without orgasm, while maintaining control over the nature of the energies and the movement of the energies. If you constantly suck semen energy up into higher centers then you will be safer if you ejaculate and control the ejaculation to not lose energy downward or feel aching in the spine, so this will often involve cutting off ejaculation after the first big releases. Many teachers tell students not to ejaculate period, but imo you just have to take precautions and meditation to lock energies so they don't leak back downwards during orgasm.

Egyptians didn't care about semen retention, they just cared about energy retention. They orgasmed then sent the energy upwards. But I find that if I surge energy upwards when I hit that huge peak before ejaculation, it feels like all the fluid down there is boiling out a kettle rushing up into and through my brain, then I wont ejaculate but just a little pre coming out, even though it felt like I ejaculated, and nothing much comes out in the urine either. I'm still an advocate of sex without orgasm. I also think the use of herbs to cleanse the fluids before hand makes sex that much more healthier for those involved.

I know that the energy centers probably need recharging if they aren't utilized properly so then the duration needed to recharge probably would be shorter because of the experience and already opened channels, and if you supplement with typical herbs for kidney tonification and high ORMUS diet, you'll be able to recharge those centers faster.

The main things people stress are: stagnation is bad, so warming up the area and massaging it frequently either manually or just by flexing the right muscles and circulating that energy, by rhythmic breathing and sucking and also energy manipulation through micro cosmic orbitals.

and also once you initiate yourself you force open channels and meridians larger than their natural state, it's like upgrading to a powertool. Powertools are empowering. They are dangerous if not handled correctly, and they can break down much easier if you don't take proper care of them and clean them properly etc. So what that means is once you open the channel larger, it makes it easier to move energy upward, but it also makes it easier to move it downward, so you have to just stay conscious of yourself more.

Another thing once you start being able to charge things, your semen will feel like it has electricity in it. It's good to share the semen, but make sure you control the energies to keep some for yourself. If you surrender you'll lose much more energy than a normal man would.