[Big Al]

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[JonPop]

Originally Posted by Big Al

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Hey Big Al. Got a question for ya. Now that Aspire36, Zencor and VigRX have had to pull some Proprietary ingredients from their products (I believe Pfizer was behind the recall) and come out with the designation. Aspire36 plus and Zencore plus. None of these products work as well now. I absolutly loved Aspire36. This was the best product I had ever found. Worked super and with NO side effects. I tried some of the new Aspire36 plus and it seems like it was just loaded with Yohamibie. Same with the Zencore plus. These products gave me a strong reaction. Headache, sweaty palms, nervousness, racing heart and no erection. I get the same reaction from too much Yohamibie. I sent back my orders of the two products and would like your opinion on the VigRX plus before I try this. I see that you recommend this product on your site. Thanks.

[Big Al]

I'm not aware of VigRx making any changes to their ingredients. Try the VigRx. If it doesn't give you the results that you're looking for, you can ask for a refund. The company that owns VigRx is very customer oriented, so you shouldn't have any problems with the product nor with obtaining a refund if you need it.

[JonPop]

Thanks, Al. But, therein lays the problem. VigRx is now VigRx plus. Whatever propietary ingredients that were removed because of a voluntry recall by the FDA, by Aspire 36, is what actually made the product work and prevented the side effects I mentioned in my above post.
Aspire 36, by Palo Alto labs, Zencore, AND VigRx, were all pulled from circulation and the stock of each manufacturer was confiscated. That they have complied with the FDA and removed the ingredients, tadafil and sildenafil, which balanced out the forumla and actually made these products work, I believe is the doing of a large lab such as Pfizer that was trying to keep their strangle hold on the market. All have gone to the designation "Plus" because of the formulation change. If it isn't the oil companys jumping on the small inventor that makes a better fuel, it's the Pharmaceutical giants protecting their monoply. The people making an alternate product that is cheaper and works, in my opinion better than Viagra, without the side effects, are doomed to be sued. Although Palo Alto labs had a great product, that had an increasing demand, the DEA came to their lab and seized all of their stock. They are under appeal but it doesn't look good. Even though you gave me the link to VigRx, it is now, VigRx plus.

[Big Al]

Originally Posted by JonPop

Thanks, Al. But, therein lays the problem. VigRx is now VigRx plus. Whatever propietary ingredients that were removed because of a voluntry recall by the FDA, by Aspire 36, is what actually made the product work and prevented the side effects I mentioned in my above post.
Aspire 36, by Palo Alto labs, Zencore, AND VigRx, were all pulled from circulation and the stock of each manufacturer was confiscated. That they have complied with the FDA and removed the ingredients, tadafil and sildenafil, which balanced out the forumla and actually made these products work, I believe is the doing of a large lab such as Pfizer that was trying to keep their strangle hold on the market. All have gone to the designation "Plus" because of the formulation change. If it isn't the oil companys jumping on the small inventor that makes a better fuel, it's the Pharmaceutical giants protecting their monoply. The people making an alternate product that is cheaper and works, in my opinion better than Viagra, without the side effects, are doomed to be sued. Although Palo Alto labs had a great product, that had an increasing demand, the DEA came to their lab and seized all of their stock. They are under appeal but it doesn't look good. Even though you gave me the link to VigRx, it is now, VigRx plus.

There is still "VigRx" (vigrx.com) as well as VigRx Plus. VigRx Plus contains additional ingredients: Bioperine, Tribulus and Damiana. Tadafil and Sildenafil are pharmaceuticals- VigRx has always contained only OTC [in most countries] ingredients. See Prevent and treat erectile dysfunction and impotence problems with the VigRX Plus penis pill formula. New ingredients, including Bioperine! for details. Where are you getting your information regarding VigRx?

[JonPop]

Thank you Big Al. I'll give these a try.

[JonPop]

Big Al, I went bck and reread the source I got my information from. The facts about Aspire 36 and Zencore were correct. I misread about VigRx. You are right, VigRx never contained any pharmaceuticals and was never recalled by the DEA. I have placed an order for this product and will let you know my results. Thanks again for your information. JP
Oh, by the way. If I mention your name do I get a personal delivery by a miss hottie who will pop thse pills outta the package and feed them to me like grapes?

[Big Al]

Originally Posted by JonPop

Big Al, I went bck and reread the source I got my information from. The facts about Aspire 36 and Zencore were correct. I misread about VigRx. You are right, VigRx never contained any pharmaceuticals and was never recalled by the DEA. I have placed an order for this product and will let you know my results. Thanks again for your information. JP
Oh, by the way. If I mention your name do I get a personal delivery by a miss hottie who will pop thse pills outta the package and feed them to me like grapes?

I wish that were the case You CAN get a bunch of free bonuses for ordering through the link that I provided though.

[ReetB]

Jon,

How do you find these products compared to the "supplements" you note in your 90 day routine?

Thanks.

[JonPop]

Originally Posted by ReetB

Jon,

How do you find these products compared to the "supplements" you note in your 90 day routine?

Thanks.

This is a good question Reet.
This is apples and oranges.

The supplements I recommend in the routine are for the average new member, just discovering PE. Most people especially young adults and very busy people on the go, are nutrient deficient and do not eat right.
The days of sitting down at the table and eating a good home cooked meal are fast disappearing. Now it's grab fast food. Throw something in the Microwave, open a box, or a can of something.
The supplements are just to promote better health and help in giving the penis the nutrients that the penis needs to start growing. Also they promote better OVERALL health.

Products such as VigRx and such, are just for that sometimes, when you want a little extra boost.