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Originally Posted by remek Babbis, I completely understand why you're more of a skeptic. It's a good thing too. Only skepticism will shine true light on PE.
By the way, is this your routine just for the trial you are running, or have you been mainly ADSing for a while? |
This is the routine for my trial. Before this I was doing mostly pumping.
So far it looks as if people want to sign up for the trial to see the contents of my forum. None of the sign ups have made a progress thread or answered my PMs to them regarding their routines.
Maybe I have been unclear as to what the trial is? Anyone that signs up for the trial MUST let me know what kind of routine they will follow so I can give them access to the right forum. I have hidden most forums and will only give people access to two forums in addition to the forum where they can log their routines. Like I have said many times now, it is not my intention to start a new PE-community. If I wanted to do that I would open registration for all, give everyone access to all the forums, post up all the before and afters, make videos, create hype, etc. , etc...
It is not easy to get people to stick to something and to log their efforts on a daily/weekly basis, yet this is exactly what will make our routines more effective and the things that will help us understand how PE works even better.
Right now people are creating their own customized routines. Some create progress logs and even post clear starting pictures. The problem is that everyone wants to make their own routines. If we are ever to figure out what works and what does not work, we must try to do trials where people are doing similar routines, log their progress, have a plan, have some form of control etc.
Of course, PE is individual. Something works for some, other things work for others. My belief is that we should be able to create better guidelines for growth then those we have today. To do this we must work together, not each to his own. Data is scattered all over these boards. PE CAN be made much easier. Of this I am convinced.
The reason I asked you those questions MoreGains123 is because I was fairly certain that you do not have much experience with extenders or other PE-devices.
I totally understand how I might come across as a sales person for autoextender.com since I keep endorsing his products and have even said that I will re-sell some of them.
As of now I have made 0 money on PE. In fact, I have spent lots of money on it to find out what works and what does not. I have two baskets full of PE-devices and I will continue to find "gadgets" that I will test. I will take some pictures of all my stuff when I find the time.
The reason that I have bought all these gadgets is to actually test to see if they can deliver what they say they can. I can now debunk allot of the stuff that is out there and save my fellow PEer money and agony.
I just want to make PE more effective, more comfortable and show people what ACTUALLY works... Not smack up a fancy web-site where I have banners that say; "GAIN 2-5" IN LESS THEN 4 MONTHS OR GET DOUBLE YOUR MONEY BACK!", and pill ads all over. If I did that I could probably quit my job.
Because I have tried allot of devices and have experience with them, I can give sound recommendations to people that are considering a purchase of a PE-device.
I only give recommendations to people that ask. Should I keep my mouth shut, let them buy the Jes-extender for over $300 that I know will give them some serious pain? A device that I know from experience most likely will be tossed in a closet in frustration because the person could not wear it for more then 1 hour before having to take it off when the web site brags with a size calculator that told him he would grow X" in Y time if he just could wear it for 8 hours every day?
No, of course not! That would make me a donk!
Yes, I have written about how I used the vac-extender for two weeks where I kept it on for 12+ hours almost every day. Then I got the same friction sore that I had just now so I had to stop and let it heal. I did not gain anything from this little trial. I have also written that I wore a around the waist vacuum ADS (home made this time)for 10+ hours every day for over two weeks. Did not gain a single mm from this little trial either.
So, why do I recommend a device that I have not gained with? Well, I have gained from using a extender. This was how I got my very first length gains. I used my Jes-extender. I fought through the pain, made modifications to wear it longer and stuck with it.
The difference between the Jes extender and the vac-extender is that the vac-extender do not have springs in it, it is fastened to your penis head with a vacuum, has a larger base and is developed by a PEer, for PEers through testing (as opposed the Jes, that is made by a money hungry Danish doctor that has butchered many men's penises through surgery..).
When people ask me I will only recommend this extender (or the static stretcher if they are uncut) since I know they will use it more and since I know they will find it very comfortable. (Actually, I usually recommend that they try to make a vacuum ADS them selves first and tell them to click the link I have in my signature over at thunders place. It is a link to a thread I made that goes through how one can make a extremely comfortable vacuum ADS, step by step, with very clear pictures... Guess I did that only to make money eh?

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Also, I am a veteran and a hard gainer. Those two mini trials told me that I will probably not gain from only extender or ADS usage and that I probably need to add something to the routine. Since most people can not wear a device on their penis for 12 hours, I do not suspect that they will have problems with friction sores. I hope, how ever, that the new constriction sleeves are better.
I understand that you get tired of hearing all the rave of all the new devices MoreGains123 but I strongly suggest that you take your time to read up the next time you choose to imply to someone that they are $$-hunters...
Like I said, anyone can join the trial.