Extender/ADS-trial

[babbis]

Yes, I am bored too, of your incompetence to answer my questions.

Maybe you should try to contribute to your fellow PEers by sharing your experiences, providing proof of your gains, maybe even make a trial of your own that actually gives people gains?

Right now you are only whining and dodging questions. Try helping someone for a change..

You should really start reading through my posts. Start with the first post of this thread.

It is not a trial of the vac-extender. It is a extender/ADS trial and I have explained it in detail in the first post.

Originally Posted by MoreGains123

"if you can't dazzle them with brilliance then baffle them with BS" ? I think that's what we're getting a dose of here. In other words you have too much to say in regard to simple questions and if you're really just running another "friendly trial" for the benefit of everyone I think you're too attentive to be believable.

BS? You asked for proof, I gave you proof. Too much to say in regard to simple questions? If I were questioning your integrity, would you not be interested in explaining your self? Too attentive? Hahahaha! I think I will take that as a compliment.

I can not say that I have noticed your nick around here, at thunders place, at Matters of size or at Mynewsize.

You say that you have used extenders yet you do not say witch ones or answer my question about if you have even stretched your penis for 12 hours.

You say that there is little proof that the static stretcher or the vac-extender works. This is not strange at all. Like I said, my before and after pictures are one set of seven that the best PE-forum on the web could dig up from over 6 years of activity. Most people (you included I assume) do not take before pictures. Lots of people do not want to post them on a open forum on the web.

If you are still questioning my integrity I suggest you do your home work, take your time answering my questions and while you are at it, show me some of your threads where you contribute to the PE-community.. If not I see no point in spending more time answering to you. Maybe you are a spokes person for size genetics? What do I know?

[babbis]

Just saw that your join date was 01-08-2007 and that you have made 5 posts in total here...all in this very thread.. Could it be someone from fastsize? Hahaha, this smells troll! Going to search for your nick over at the other forums now MoreGains123... 123...as in; "take a pill and gain multiple inches?".

[babbis]

Searched thunders, mattersofsize and mynewsize for your nick...It came up blank on all of them. Who are you over at thunders place?

Just sent you a PM by the way.

[MoreGains123]

I have lurked over the years and never wanted to be involved in the conversations. I have gained more than I wanted as it turns out but that's another subject. I just know that for most guys it's like the gym. They want to go but don't and are seeking a quick solution,. That's why pills are so popular. You have posted numerous trials without results. It makes me suspicious. Sizegenetics and Fastsize are the biggest pricks in this arena. They lie like hell and back it up wth "medical claims". I know they suck. But I also know that dedication to exercise gives results. I know extenders give promise and hope. They are between pills and hard work and in my opinion a waste of time because faster results can be achieved with manual exercises. Ever tried to biuld a bicep with a device?

[babbis]

Finally! Excellent post MoreGains123!

Originally Posted by MoreGains123

You have posted numerous trials without results. It makes me suspicious.

I have been trying to do semi-controlled trials for a while now but as you state;

Originally Posted by MoreGains123

I also know that dedication to exercise gives results

, most people are not dedicated and will stop what they are doing for extended periods of time, causing them to feel like they failed them selves and me, causing silence..

I have done this my self as I am sure most people have at one point or another in their lives. Sticking to something requires inner motivation and desire.

It is not only Sizegenetics and Fastsize that lie and are pricks in my opinion... Most sites that sell devices lie and are pricks in some way, shape or form.

I go by how the device feels, how practical it is, how I think the average man would fair with it and if it actually give me gains. No, I have not gained from the vac-extender yet but I have not been using it much yet. I have gained from using a extender in the past so I have no reason to doubt that I will gain with this device. Last time I gained from a extender it took me about 5 months.

Originally Posted by MoreGains123

I know extenders give promise and hope. They are between pills and hard work and in my opinion a waste of time because faster results can be achieved with manual exercises.

Now, I could be an ass and ask you for proof of the last part of your statement (like you so eagerly were doing to me a few posts up until I did.. ), but I am not going to. This is your opinion and you are entitled to it. I am not trying to convince that this PE method is better then that PE method. This thread is about a trial. It is not about what extenders are best or about me selling you anything.

You came here attacking me, seriously questioning my integrity and I took offense of this. I hope that I have successfully explained to you (and others) what this trial is for.

If you feel that I have offended you in any way, shape or form, I apologize. The way you questioned me I started to think that you had to be a spokes person for one of the noose-extender-companies.

I am just a regular guy trying to make PE more effective by gathering people to do trials. So far I have not succeeded but I know I will.

By the way, trial is still on and I am still looking for people that are interested!

Veterans and non-gainers are particularly welcomed!

[babbis]

Originally Posted by remek

Babbis,

I agree: You'll probably have to throw some real PE in there to make any gains. And increase the intensity

You may want to contact Monty and see what he did to gain. He's used an ADS in conjunction with his routine for a while now.

I did not see this before now.

I have actually used him and his routine as inspiration for the routine I am currently using. I believe he is using a bungee cord that he hooks around the door knob instead of a string that I am using. I will send him a e-mail and ask him more about his routine.

[SouthGA_Boy]

quick question. I know with normal PE, the warm up and cool down is super important. How about before and after using an extender? thus far i have noticed that my pe routine left more of a flaccid hang after than using an extender. While we are on the subject. What would you recommend as far as starting out(timewise and restwise)?

[babbis]

Hello!

I just wanted to let you guys know that I am taking a break from PE to focus on my family, my work and my training.

Also, I have started a training-video-blogg (lifting weights and other activities) at youtube. Check it out! Just do a search for; babbis13, and my videos should come up. The training blogg has; Episode 1. 2. , etc. at the end of the title.

Basically I have not been able to gain for a very long time. If I can not lead by example in PE, I will not lead at all. Decon time for me now.

Keep up the good work remek!

[emanresu]

Babbis' example, IPR, pumping, ADS, "no gains in a long time", and only

moderate gains overall, fits with my theory about chopping and changing

routines. MoreGains123 was right, it's lack of dedication to the basic manual

exercises that holds most people back. Yes, I know there are exceptions,

but I'm talking in general. I wonder how long people stick with it, after easy,

early gains dry up? A little knowledge, your hands, and a positive attitude

can take you a long way. Constantly being on the lookout for the great secret,

won't help you.

[babbis]

The basic manual exercises does not work for ALLOT of people.

Maybe my gains have been so modest because I am 100% honest with my self when I measure? I honestly believe there are many PEers out there that take poor starting measurements, use different measuring methods (doing the first measurement standing, then doing the next one sitting will give you an instant gain of about 0,5-1cm..).

Anyway, to each their own. I will probably give PE another go sometime. May you gain multiple inches emanresu.