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10-15-2007, 07:06 PM
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Rep Power: 0  | Hanging, puming what-a-grip, what-a-confusion (I apologize is this is a repeat of a post I made in reply to another thread, but that post seems to have gotten lost and may have been in the wrong thread.)
I've been at PE for about 6 weeks now I am thinking about using some type of device in addition to just the normal jelqing and stretches.
But my head is swimming. I've read about clamps, hangers, what-a-grip, pumps, etc and I must admit I am still somewhat confused. So my questions are
1. If I want to add a device to gain girth, it appears that I could start some clamping sets (starting at 3 sets, 10 minutes each with a 10 minute break in between.)
For the clamp I could use a regular metal clamp (like that used on radiator hoses) or a plastic cable clamp, after first wrapping the penis with a mouse pad strip or a what-a-grip. I assume if a what-a-grip is use then it is simply wound round and around the base of at the penis before the clamp is applied. Is this correct?
2. To add length appears that I could apply some continuous all day stretching (ADS). In order to do this could I not just use a dog muzzle slipped over the penis and then tightening it with a clamp (after wrapping the base of the penis under the clamp with a cloth or what-a-grip).
The straps of the dog muzzle would then have to have tension applied. I am not in favor of hanging weights from the straps because I sit most of the day and I also do not want the weights to show. So that means somehow fastening the straps to one of my legs, with tension applied. What is the best way to achieve this? Should I use a belt or velcro wrap around my leg and then apply enough tension to stretch just a bit beyond my flacid length?
Does this help only length gains or also gains in girth?
3. I seem to excel at turtling. Is there a specific exercise I can do that will
prevent or lessen this? I would like my flacid length and girth to permanently expand.
4. I've read posts that say that the what-a-grip should be rolled on the penis. Why would one want to do this? What is the ultimate objective?
Also, I don't see how rolling it on is possible. I have a pretty small flacid state and I still have trouble getting it on, the penis simply bends. If I get a partial erection then the what-a-grip is too small to fit over. If I roll the what a grip the hole in the center also get smaller. I'm totally lost on this one.
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10-17-2007, 12:18 PM
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Rep Power: 10  | VideoManToo: I was going to suggest you start a new thread for your questions. Good idea.
I wouldn't jump into devices just yet. You've only been at it 6 weeks. Try some advanced exercises over the next two months. After that, if you feel that you need more, then go for the devices.
Onto your questions:
1. Yes, you could wound the WAG around the base of your penis while clamping.
2. It sounds like you've made yourself a nifty ADS there  Both a velcro wrap and a belt would work.
One way you may want to do this is to wrap a belt around your leg, and then loop something from the muzzle to the belt. The belt stays in place, the muzzle holds your penis, and a connector (string, small rope, elastic, etc), keeps the penis extended.
3. Have you always turtled or is just lately, since you started PE? Turtling is a neutral PI, although it usually leans more towards the negative side for most men. It may mean you're overtraining (and thus you should avoid any device, whatsoever). What are your other PIs like?
That said, PE usually increases both the flaccid and erect penis. If after a few months you find this isn't happening, then you can try a device to help your flaccid size "catch up." Wrapping all day, or using a light ADS has helped many men in the flaccid department.
4. I ran into all of the same problems with the WAG, as well. Perhaps Dustpan can offer some insight on this question. When I use WAG, I skip rolling it on all together. I simply bundle it up and then put it on.
Hope this helps,
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10-17-2007, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by remek VideoManToo: I was going to suggest you start a new thread for your questions. Good idea. | 3. Have you always turtled or is just lately, since you started PE? Turtling is a neutral PI, although it usually leans more towards the negative side for most men. It may mean you're overtraining (and thus you should avoid any device, whatsoever). What are your other PIs like?
That said, PE usually increases both the flaccid and erect penis. If after a few months you find this isn't happening, then you can try a device to help your flaccid size "catch up." Wrapping all day, or using a light ADS has helped many men in the flaccid department.
Unfortunately, my flacid has always been quite small. I hope that changes.
Would there be any harm (or any good for that matter) if I wrapped the penis in an Ace elastic bandage. I think I read somewhere that this would help to elongate the flacidnon erect penis if the wrap is applied daily. I suspect the wrap would be applied to a flacid penis and applied snugly, but not too tight.
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10-17-2007, 02:00 PM
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>>Would there be any good if I wrapped the penis in an Ace elastic bandage?<<
A lot of guys use the ace bandage to increase their flaccid size. It generally works fairly well (when applied over long periods of time). If you do go this route, wrap your stretched flaccid penis.
>>Would there be any harm?<<
There are a few theories floating around that growers might be able to experience more erect growth than showers. This is just a theory - and it's not too popular as of yet - but if it holds any ground, then a bigger flaccid hang might hinder erect gains. |
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10-17-2007, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by VideoManToo (I apologize is this is a repeat of a post I made in reply to another thread, but that post seems to have gotten lost and may have been in the wrong thread.)
I've been at PE for about 6 weeks now I am thinking about using some type of device in addition to just the normal jelqing and stretches. First off, adding a hanging device is to early for advanced exercises you should wait for another 6 weeks before you advance yourself.
But my head is swimming. I've read about clamps, hangers, what-a-grip, pumps, etc and I must admit I am still somewhat confused. So my questions are
1. If I want to add a device to gain girth, it appears that I could start some clamping sets (starting at 3 sets, 10 minutes each with a 10 minute break in between.) Clamping is designed for the advanced PEer after your penis has been conditioned.
For the clamp I could use a regular metal clamp (like that used on radiator hoses) or a plastic cable clamp, after first wrapping the penis with a mouse pad strip or a what-a-grip. I assume if a what-a-grip is use then it is simply wound round and around the base of at the penis before the clamp is applied. Is this correct?
2. To add length appears that I could apply some continuous all day stretching (ADS). In order to do this could I not just use a dog muzzle slipped over the penis and then tightening it with a clamp (after wrapping the base of the penis under the clamp with a cloth or what-a-grip).
The straps of the dog muzzle would then have to have tension applied. I am not in favor of hanging weights from the straps because I sit most of the day and I also do not want the weights to show. So that means somehow fastening the straps to one of my legs, with tension applied. What is the best way to achieve this? Should I use a belt or velcro wrap around my leg and then apply enough tension to stretch just a bit beyond my flacid length? When using any kind of ADS you have to be careful of not cutting off the cirrulation to the penis after long period of time
Does this help only length gains or also gains in girth? ADS does help with length gains.
3. I seem to excel at turtling. Is there a specific exercise I can do that will
prevent or lessen this? I would like my flacid length and girth to permanently expand.
4. I've read posts that say that the what-a-grip should be rolled on the penis. Why would one want to do this? What is the ultimate objective? When you use the WAG you have to gather it not roll it up. If you still can't do it this way, you can cut it in half and gather it. This will be much easier. You put one half on the penis then the other half.
Also, I don't see how rolling it on is possible. I have a pretty small flacid state and I still have trouble getting it on, the penis simply bends. If I get a partial erection then the what-a-grip is too small to fit over. If I roll the what a grip the hole in the center also get smaller. I'm totally lost on this one. I have a 5.5 flaccid girth and it will fit
Thanks | Dusty
__________________ Starting stats 7/15/05 -FL 3.750"x FG 2.125", BPEL 5.250"xEG 3.750" Current Stats: 11/04/07-FL 6.062"x FG 5.687,( BPEL 8.000"x EG 6.125") Goal for 2008 BPEL 8.500" x EG 6.125" Dusty |
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10-18-2007, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Dustpan Dusty I have a 5.5 flaccid girth and it will fit | Hell, I'd be delirious with a 5.5 girth on an erection. How long have you been at this?
I still don't see how that small opening in the What-A-Grip is going to fit around a flacid penis, even one of my size.
Do you have any pictures or video on how to install this thing?
Also, it the aim to cover the entire penis with the WAG and then attach the free end to a belt or something attached to the leg for an ADS?
Again, a few pictures would be great.
I've seen people comment about putting a dog muzzle around the base of the penis (after first protecting it with a mouse pad) and then clamping it for ADS. Does this work any better or worse?
It seems to me that the WAG would stretch the our penis and inner penis, whereas the muzzle would only stretch the inner penis.
Am I understanding this correctly?
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10-19-2007, 04:54 PM
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Rep Power: 14  | [quote=VideoManToo;5431]Hell, I'd be delirious with a 5.5 girth on an erection. How long have you been at this? Answer: I have been doing PE for over 2.5 years
I still don't see how that small opening in the What-A-Grip is going to fit around a flacid penis, even one of my size.
Do you have any pictures or video on how to install this thing? Answer: You have to stretch the WAG while you are gathering. Put your right and left index and middle fingers in the hole and stretch while you gather. When you have it stretched out put your penis in the hole and slide it down to the base . You then have to smooth it out over you penis.
Also, it the aim to cover the entire penis with the WAG and then attach the free end to a belt or something attached to the leg for an ADS? Answer: If you do what I think your going to do, it will not stay on the haft of your penis.
Again, a few pictures would be great. Answer: Don't have any pictures
I've seen people comment about putting a dog muzzle around the base of the penis (after first protecting it with a mouse pad) and then clamping it for ADS. Does this work any better or worse?
It seems to me that the WAG would stretch the our penis and inner penis, whereas the muzzle would only stretch the inner penis. Answer: When you have a clamp attached to the muzzle hanger it does stretch the inner ligaments of the penis
Am I understanding this correctly?
Dusty
__________________ Starting stats 7/15/05 -FL 3.750"x FG 2.125", BPEL 5.250"xEG 3.750" Current Stats: 11/04/07-FL 6.062"x FG 5.687,( BPEL 8.000"x EG 6.125") Goal for 2008 BPEL 8.500" x EG 6.125" Dusty |
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