Max Vac Stretcher Revisited...Improved (All Day Strapped Stretcher Concept)

[stillwantmore]

Some of you may be familiar with me, and my past "tinkering" around with various ideas for an "All Day" stretcher setup that actually works. Believe me when I say that I have indeed played around, and experimented a LOT with this concept. I've tried strapping various things to my calf, ankle, thigh, and of course to my penis. I've tried using home made hangers like the "wench", the "BIB" models, cable clamps, etc. All to no avail. The main issue has always been blood flow, or in actuality,a lack thereof after 15-20 minutes or so. There's just never been a way to effectively attach something to a penis for a very long period of time...more than 30 minutes or longer that would stretch it, and keep it extended in a way that works. For a real, "All Day" stretcher...even so called "extenders" fall short with the blood flow, and irritation issues.....to work, there must be blood flow to the penis mainly, and also the damn thing has to be comfortable at both the penis, and the leg, or ankle attachment points. I think I may finally have found a solution. I got excited, I actually lost sleep when the Max Vac hangers came out. Here was a "hanger" for hanging weights that could attach to a penis by vacuum, and not restrict blood flow. I knew from past gains, and experience that hanging, and stretching the penis tissues for extended periods produced permanent results....but the main 'fall back' of hanging is usually the time required...and then the multiple short sets required to hang accumulatively long enough periods per day to see results. The Max Vac answered both of these issues. So it appeared. For me personally, the design of the original Max Vac hangers...I don't know what's been changed with later models if anything, but the "chamber" or piece that the penis goes into...I don't know how to explain it, other than it was very conducive to my penis at least to cause severe blistering problems ...either as a hanger or as a stretcher.

Fast forward about a year I think? BTC, the man who brought about the Max Vac hangers comes out with an "extender" based on the Max Vac concept. I noticed right away with this extender that the "chamber" was much smaller length wise, and looked like it had room for mainly the glans, and first inch or so of the penis from behind the glans. I had to have one to try out. I laid down the $$, and had one about a week later. After a little experimenting with this new extender, I realized that it could indeed be the device I'd been looking for....finally. It seemed like no matter how much tension I applied via the rods, I was able to wear it for an hour++ with .......NO blisters! After wearing this extender for several days....about two weeks (not straight of course)....having accumulated 6-8 hours per day of wear time, often 3+ hours straight with no issues....I put up the extender. WHY??? Well, I'm just funny that way. Mainly because it was a tricky device in my opinion to use. I'm not knocking it at all, nor BTC. I just had issues. When I'd move around the rods would "adjust" themselves, and over the course of a couple hours, one rod was usually turned out farther than the other. Also, with my flaccid stretched length the rod "keepers" the little blue plastic things that sit over the ends of the threaded rods that the adjustment rods ride on were not usable for me, and the adjustment rods would slide off the threaded rods which was annoying, and clumsy.

ANYWAY, two or three months pass...and I have another night of lost sleep. I've got a NEW idea. I'm going to take the chamber from the MV extender, and try and use it for a strapped all day stretcher! It's brilliant, I went over all the steps, and details in my head. Below are the pics. I'm going on one hour of straight wear time so far.

Notes:

This is first day of "Proof Of Concept" testing. The elastic band in the picture is a latex "slingshot replacement band" which I found in the sporting goods area of Wal Mart.

I'm wearing a sock around my foot for comfort. The dog collar (an adjustable from 8"-14" nylon with quick release snap $6 also from Wal Mart) "bites" into the leg, or foot with the pull of the band. Placement does not matter...but the sock remedies the discomfort issue.

I took some nylon "para cord" that I had around my house and made knots in it, and then placed the knots in the channels that the extender rods sit into. (see pics)

Rubber band around chamber/sleeve keeps any vac leaks to a minimum.

The two metal clips on either end of the elastic band are "carabeeners". Small, approximately 2" also found in sporting goods at Wal Mart.

Please do not rush out and buy the parts! I'm testing this for a couple weeks to see if there are issues that I do not like, or think would cause problems.

Do not send me messages asking me to make you this. If this concept makes it through testing, you will be buying your own extender chamber, and sleeves from BTC. I assume he will sell the parts aside from a complete extender. Surely he has replacement/warranty parts...and profit, is profit.

I do not benefit in any way if you make your own setup as pictured. I just hope this does prove effective. Like said above, I'm going on an hour ...well over an hour now of straight wear time with no issues yet. I'll continue testing, and provide updates asap.

[V8N3T]

fyi, i made a thread about this type of streatching. Much more simple than what you have rigged up there:

1 Shirt stay
1 Sock "to go on your foot"
1 shoe string.

Tie one end around the head of your penis and make a bow tie. And hook it threw the loops. Very simple, and easy to release. + you can wear it under your pants just like you have rigged and adjust it on the fly. People will just think its a normal shirt stay. Ive been testing this for a few months and i am noticing a big difference in FL. Little sore around the head but seems to be working.

[stillwantmore]

Do you have a measurable amount of tension? Where's the tension come from? I'm just wondering if theres any stretching/tension going on.

Originally Posted by V8N3T

fyi, i made a thread about this type of streatching. Much more simple than what you have rigged up there:

1 Shirt stay
1 Sock "to go on your foot"
1 shoe string.

Tie one end around the head of your penis and make a bow tie. And hook it threw the loops. Very simple, and easy to release. + you can wear it under your pants just like you have rigged and adjust it on the fly. People will just think its a normal shirt stay. Ive been testing this for a few months and i am noticing a big difference in FL. Little sore around the head but seems to be working.

[stillwantmore]

I'm still happy with how things are going so far guys. I'm still experimenting with just how much tension actually needs to be applied. There's a "sweet spot" per se that's between 2-4lbs of resistance that can be applied over a long period of time to continually produce results.

[remek]

Hey SWM, great post. Do keep us updated with your progress

By the way, do you have any pictures of the new max-vac extender without your mod? I couldn't find one on MNS.

V8: The big difference here is the vacuum type pressure that the silicone sleeve provides. It provides consistent pressure around your entire penis, whereas a string provides pressure in one area (where the knot is tied). This is why a string can be extremely dangerous (not saying that devices in general are safe, but string knots have left a few men on with ED for several weeks or more in the past).

[stillwantmore]

Originally Posted by remek

Hey SWM, great post. Do keep us updated with your progress

By the way, do you have any pictures of the new max-vac extender without your mod? I couldn't find one on MNS.

V8: The big difference here is the vacuum type pressure that the silicone sleeve provides. It provides consistent pressure around your entire penis, whereas a string provides pressure in one area (where the knot is tied). This is why a string can be extremely dangerous (not saying that devices in general are safe, but string knots have left a few men on with ED for several weeks or more in the past).

Hey remek, here's a post I made with a PIC, and vid. You must be a registered member to view.

MyNewSize™*P.E. Forums :: View topic - Me Using MV Stretcher (VIDEO)

To see the video, you may have to right click on the video box to get an options menu (after the video has a few minutes to load)

Remek, you're right about the pressure on the penis thing. You have to be careful WHERE you place it. There's a nerve bundle that runs along the top, and mostly behind the glans. If these nerves are damaged (repeated pressure for example), or injured you will suffer (hopefully temporary) erection problems. Big reason for erection problems caused by improper jelqing grips...where the thumb runs over the top of the penis, and drags over those nerves, and also for problems caused by stretchers that use a NOOSE.

I don't totally understand the mechanics of how the Max Vac hangers/stretchers work. However, the sleeves themselves actually take VERY little if any pressure, or stretch when using the devices. It's mind boggling to me. The sleeve acts mainly as a means to 'seal' things up between the penis, and chamber.

Things are still looking good with this setup btw. I'm going to give it a full run until the end of this month before posting my final thoughts, observations, and whether I suggest anyone else uses this method.

[remek]

Thank you for the link, SWM. That's exactly what I was hoping for (picture wise).

How's the glans by the way? Are the blisters healing up?

[stillwantmore]

Originally Posted by remek

Thank you for the link, SWM. That's exactly what I was hoping for (picture wise).

How's the glans by the way? Are the blisters healing up?

The blisters are gone, and I'll be ready to go again on Monday. Remek is referring to a couple small blisters I got on my glans from using too much tension/not having my glans fully expanded in the MV cylinder the other day.

[timesbechangin]

Thanks for the post SWM. Do you mind if I ask how much you've gained? You seem to know a lot about PE.

[stillwantmore]

Originally Posted by timesbechangin

Thanks for the post SWM. Do you mind if I ask how much you've gained? You seem to know a lot about PE.

My gains have been: 2" in length, and 1.25" in girth. From 5" non bp length to 7", and 5" shaft girth to 6.25".