[Big Tom]

Im concerned about how permenant the gains from PE are. I figured you have to do a bit of maintenance after you have cemented. Would regular erections from either edging or sex be a sufficient maintenace routine?

Cheers,
Tom

[The_Roc248]

Originally Posted by figMiNT

Well, if you really want to get specific, and now I do, you're right but very wrong.

Masturbation, serves one purpose: self gratification. The reason why you are doing this has nothing to do with spreading blood evenly around your penis. A lot of the times depending on hard you pull, or vigorous your motions are, you can squeeze one out in a matter of minutes.

Edging/Ballooning is not being done for the sake of pleasing yourself and getting yourself off, that's just a bonus, and for many once they learn how to, they will have multiple dry orgasms. Edging/Ballooning is said to be a stamina builder, I disagree with that.

I've already said it's main purpose, you're supposed to take it slow. I use both hands when edging/ballooning. I haven't masturbated for a very long time, because I don't find any benefits in doing so, my resolve is that I want gains not a minute of pleasure; a lifetime with a bigger penis, and better lasting sex sounds more appealing to me.

If your mindset is that edging and ballooning is just another form of masturbation, then all it will be for you is masturbation and you won't get as much out of it as other PEers, myself included have.

Sorry. I'm not having a go at the theory of 'Edging', I'm just finding it difficult to get my head round it. Your information helped though. So rather than thinking of it as a form of masturbation, is it best to just focus of pushing blood around the penis and not getting aroused at all?

Thanks.

[Larger]

What's the reason every man has PE? To get a bigger penis or improve their EQ, which is still resulting in a bigger penis. What kind of bigger penis, flaccid or erect? For me it's both, but during intercourse erect is what matters. So let's stick with erect size (girth and length).

Now after you work your muscles in the penis by doing those exercises to stretch the penis and move the blood and tissue around. The overall goal of edging/ballooning is to get yourself to the highest EQ you can, gradually most likely. When you are close to the point of no return (PONR) you are close to emission.

During emission, when kegel (contract the PC floor muscles) you will be doing what I call a hold, and as a result you will stop yourself from ejaculating or cumming. If you do it too soon you will stop yourself from getting the fluid trapped in the penis, if you do it too late you will ejaculate. When I do a correct hold, I usually feel like my glans (head of the penis) is exploding and that there is a spray of cum, however nothing comes out, perhaps a little bit, but not much. This increases pressure in the penis and thus increases the size.

Your penis is a balloon. More pressure, the more it will expand. When I'm edging/ballooning with about 3 holds, I have a very large full, pants shredding penis. So the goal of edging/ballooning is more to get pressure build up in your penis, to really push your tissue even further than what you have with jelqs, squeezes, stretching, what have you.

This is my defintion of the two, that I took from a member at Thunders when I first joined this gym.
Edging: You ejaculate afterward.
Ballooning: You do not ejaculate.

Hope this helps you.

[kingpole]

When you guys get really good at this im going to have to introduce you to supra slammers.

[purge]

i have a question, and its probably stupid, but ive never really masturbated before, i just cant stay interested in it and i dont really care for it much, and i have a hard time holding a strong erection by myself(porn or pictures doesnt really turn me on) but anyways when my gf first started going down on me, i wouldnt last very long, but after that i started pulling out when i felt a sensation and i would squeeze my pelvic muscle or whatever, and wait like 5-10 seconds, and then let her continue, id do that about 3-4 times and the orgasm was 10x better and more intense. Would this be the same as edging? Because now when she starts giving me head i can last for a longgg time last time i didnt even cum after quite some time

[Larger]

Originally Posted by purge

i have a question, and its probably stupid, but ive never really masturbated before, i just cant stay interested in it and i dont really care for it much, and i have a hard time holding a strong erection by myself(porn or pictures doesnt really turn me on) but anyways when my gf first started going down on me, i wouldnt last very long, but after that i started pulling out when i felt a sensation and i would squeeze my pelvic muscle or whatever, and wait like 5-10 seconds, and then let her continue, id do that about 3-4 times and the orgasm was 10x better and more intense. Would this be the same as edging? Because now when she starts giving me head i can last for a longgg time last time i didnt even cum after quite some time

Not a stupid question at all purge, I can answer it too.

You've never masturbated and you don't watch porn? Well masturbation works out the penis, but not the same as edging or ballooning or even any form of PE. When you do this I wonder if you get a dry orgasm (very little to no ejaculate). If this is the case then you're contracting your PC BC muscles right before emission. I wouldn't consider it edging, I would consider it longer oral sex . My first time with a girl, who has way more experience then me, I lasted 2 hours and I wasn't used to it so I didn't even cum, but I had a few dry orgasms. Second time I lasted three hours. She timed it with her text to her friend before we started. And she surprised at how intense of an orgasm I had.

Holding (stopping yourself from cumming) is a technique used in sex, masturbation, and PE. That's my perspective on it anyway.

[purge]

do you mean your first time having sex? or oral? cuz damn your a beast if you lasted 2 hours your first time having sex lol

if your talking about oral, thats still pretty good, everyone is different i guess, my gf is pretty good at it and im not circumsized not sure if that really makes a difference but i read that being circumsized makes it less sensitive?

[Larger]

Hmm I never said did I. I talked about it on this tread.

First time receiving oral sex I lasted 1 hour and 40 minutes without even cumming. Second time was 3 hours. Since I'm circumcised "cut" I'm not very sensitive. Since I've been PEing my sensitivity has come back more though, especially when I'm fully erect.

Good and quick are two different things, I would say. There are girls who can make you cum within minutes, but is that really enjoyable, a quickie? I prefer to take my time as do the ladies I stay with.

[purge]

lol a girl gave you head for 3 straight hours? thats pretty crazy man even 30 minutes is a long time id rather move on to something else then stay doing that the whole time but i guess everyone has their own preferences :]

[kingpole]

Originally Posted by purge

i have a question, and its probably stupid, but ive never really masturbated before, i just cant stay interested in it and i dont really care for it much, and i have a hard time holding a strong erection by myself(porn or pictures doesnt really turn me on) but anyways when my gf first started going down on me, i wouldnt last very long, but after that i started pulling out when i felt a sensation and i would squeeze my pelvic muscle or whatever, and wait like 5-10 seconds, and then let her continue, id do that about 3-4 times and the orgasm was 10x better and more intense. Would this be the same as edging? Because now when she starts giving me head i can last for a longgg time last time i didnt even cum after quite some time

More like tantic sex, this is a good dicsipline you came up with. Your doing great