[kingpole]

Originally Posted by jordan485

its sites like these that kill pe's rep and cause err body to think growth is junk

im glad though here on these forums no one talks shit about massive gains in short peroids,

lol seriously how can one gain 4 inches just by takin a pill?

Unless they had really bad EQ, maybe, i don't know.

[scientificapproach]

Originally Posted by jordan485

its sites like these that kill pe's rep and cause err body to think growth is junk

im glad though here on these forums no one talks shit about massive gains in short peroids,

lol seriously how can one gain 4 inches just by takin a pill?

I like to view PE as stimulating new growth, and giving new cells time to grow. I don't think there is a pill which can stimulate new growth in the penis?! I may be wrong but I seriously doubt it. I think pills tend to focus on forcing more blood into the penis. I suppose this could possible result in growth?! Either way I have never taken a penis pill and never intend too. I think pills really do prey on the "quick fix" attitude that many of us have burried within us. As the saying goes "Rome wasn't built in a day". Was it Tom Hubbard who coined this phrase for PE? Very apt!!

[WiddleWade]

Seeing Kingpole and Dustpan's results, it would seem (obviously i guess) that better results can be seen when jelqing/exercising with an erection less than 50%. I think that is logical, considering that you're not forcing much blood flow (nor breaking much tissue) if you're at 60-70%.

Do you guys think that masturbating before jelqing, in oder to keep the erection level down, would help? I know that some people don't suggest doing it after a session.

[scientificapproach]

Widdlewade: I guess that if you struggle to keep your erection down then masturbation prior to jelqing may help. I personally prefer if anything to masturbate afterwards as it seems to help keep me plump. Yes, many people believe that lower erection levels when jelqing are they way forward. I agree, I think breaking up TOO much tissue and causing too much trauma could well be a negative thing!

[going411by7]

I hate these claims by the other sites. It's like the claims of the porno people. It's all bull shit. I grew fast when I first started, but I was also suffering from E.D., much like Kingpole. I know DLD at MOS was also suffering from E.D.when he made his fast gains. I know this is all anecdotal, but then most of the claims in the P.E. world are anecdotal. Some people's claims, however, are just a lot more believable, and supported by LEGITIMATE picture proof, than others.

In the final analysis, though, only WE know what we've gained, and let's face it, it is OUR dick and OUR life. The focus should always be on our own dick.

[kingpole]

Originally Posted by going411by7

I hate these claims by the other sites. It's like the claims of the porno people. It's all bull shit. I grew fast when I first started, but I was also suffering from E.D., much like Kingpole. I know DLD at MOS was also suffering from E.D.when he made his fast gains. I know this is all anecdotal, but then most of the claims in the P.E. world are anecdotal. Some people's claims, however, are just a lot more believable, and supported by LEGITIMATE picture proof, than others.

In the final analysis, though, only WE know what we've gained, and let's face it, it is OUR dick and OUR life. The focus should always be on our own dick.

Yep, I agree. We know what we accomplished and 300.000 men from the various pe forums can't be all liars.