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JonPop · 10-06-2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pegasus

What was the stuff JP used?

Androgel.

Pegasus · 10-07-2009

Ah a different thing alltogether I take it? This gel (androgel) adds test.

phallic1 · 10-07-2009

Some of the testosterone from Androgel will convert to dihydrotestosterone via 5 alpha-reductase.

brian422922PE · 10-07-2009

so drinking green tea will improve my DHT? and this will help me get a large dick?

phallic1 · 10-07-2009

Well, green tea is not going to be any magic bullet that will give you a massive penis. It may help a bit with the androgen conversion but that is speculation. There is NO pill or dietary supplement that will give you measurable dramatic gains. I'm not against supplements by any means but from my extensive experience with damned near every possible supplement touted as an aphrodisiac or testosterone booster, the best thing they are good at is emptying your wallet.

Radiohead · 10-08-2009

Yep, pills are bad for yeh and wont make you gain.

kingpole · 10-08-2009

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Originally Posted by Radiohead

Yep, pills are bad for yeh and wont make you gain.

Well i don't know about that. I think some guys need supplementation for general good health.

Pegasus · 10-09-2009

Well supplements tend not to work as dramatically as drugs, but then they tend to have far less side effects also.
I think you can have a supplements vs drugs argument with KP.

Will say from a personal point of view, that there seems to be a attitude amongst some,(not saying you) that training without drugs is half arsed. Drugs are so endemic in some quarters, that training with them is seen as a virtue and people training without are looked down on. Well I have a problem with that.

fadedaway · 10-09-2009

Iv'e Been browsing this thread and skimming alot of the names of extracts and Minerals and what have you. Yesterday i went and bought a bunch of suppliments for doing this p90x thing everyones on about. And the Pre Workout Drink i bought ( Super Pump 250) Contains many of the things listed in this post to boost testosterone and what have you.

Additional Information on Gaspari Nutrition SuperPump 250 :

Ingredients: Other Ingredients: Maltodextrin, Citric Acid, Malic Acid, Xanthan Gum, Potassium Phosphate, Natural Orange Flavor, Magnesium Phosphate, Magnesium Oxide, Sucralose, Beta Carotene. SuperPump250 Proprietary Blend [Gaspari Nutrition Novel Compound No. 250 (Patent Pending)]. Anabolic Signaling Complex (Patent Pending): L-Arginine Alpha-Ketoglutarate (A-AKG), L-Arginine Ketoisocaproate (A-KIC), Tri-Creatine Malate, Creatine Monohydrate, GuaniproTM (Guanidino Propionic Acid), American Ginseng Extract, White Willow Bark Extract (Standardized to 15% Salicin). Lipolytic/Xtreme Focus Agent (Patent Pending): L-Tyrosine, NAC (N-Acetyl-Cysteine), N-Acetyl-Tyrosine, Glucuronolactone, Methylxanthines (Caffeine), Rhodiola Rosea Root Extract (Standardized to 5% Total Rosavins), Ginko Biloba Extract (Standardized to 24% Ginkosides & 6% Terpenes), Vinpocetine, Huperzine. Myogenic Transcription Factor/Agonist (Patent Pending): Taurine, L-Leucine, L-Glutamine, L-Citruline AKG, L-Valine, L-Isoleucine, Acetyl-L-Carnitine, Turkesterone (11,20 Dihydroxyecdysone from Ajuga Turkestanica Extract), Choline Bitartrate. Insulin Secretagogue Complex (Patent Pending): Trimethylglycine, Indole-3-Carbinol, 4-Hydroxyisoleucine (from Fenugreek Seed Extract), Cinnamon Bark Extract (15% Cinnamic Aldehyde), Bacopa Monniera (Standardized for 20% Bacosides A & B). IntraSORB Rapid Absorption - Myo-Hydration Matrix: Potassium Bicarbonate, Sodium Bicarbonate, Potassium Gycerophosphate, Magnesium Glycerophosphate, Alpha Lipoic Acid, Bioperine.

It's packed with arginine, magnesium and lots of test boosters, it also Expands your bloodflow exponentially. Im sure there are a thousand other pre workout drinks that contain these and more as well. I'm wondering if doing pe after taking this would be benificial. Also i have made a recovery drink from eas whey protein, amino acid complex, and l-gluteine, the three of which combined are packed with l-lysine and other great things included in the regular suppliment guide in JP's beginners guide. Combine with a mens power multivitamin... which is high in zinc and what have you, all your bases are pretty much covered. So if you subtract the cost of buying each vitamin and mineral individually ( L-arganine capsules being 18$ for 2 weeks where i am ) you basically come out with the same damage t your wallet, with alot of extra benifical stuff.

Has anyone sucessfully tried something like this for pe, Or done their Pe after their workout whhen all this was still active in their blood stream, and how did it go.

Pegasus · 10-10-2009

Yes of course, these are widely available and well advertised. I used nano vapour for awhile ,which worked ok but made me hyper. Whey based drinks are ok but can be pricey.
Bottom line, if you feel this is an effective way to supplement, then go for it, only I wouldn't get carried away with the hype.

10-08-2009	#196
Radiohead Moderator Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: French Canada Posts: 1,620	Yep, pills are bad for yeh and wont make you gain. __________________ Starting stats: October 15th, 2008 - NBPEL: 6.25' EG: 5.00' Current stats October 15th, 2009 - (100% erection) NBPEL: 7.20' EG: 5.375' Goal: NBPEL: 8' EG: 6' (objective: girth) TGC Theory A man should not strive to eliminate his complexes but to get into accord with them: they are legitimately what directs his conduct in the world. -Sigmund Freud

10-09-2009	#199
fadedaway Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 24	Pre Work Out Drinks Iv'e Been browsing this thread and skimming alot of the names of extracts and Minerals and what have you. Yesterday i went and bought a bunch of suppliments for doing this p90x thing everyones on about. And the Pre Workout Drink i bought ( Super Pump 250) Contains many of the things listed in this post to boost testosterone and what have you. Additional Information on Gaspari Nutrition SuperPump 250 : Ingredients: Other Ingredients: Maltodextrin, Citric Acid, Malic Acid, Xanthan Gum, Potassium Phosphate, Natural Orange Flavor, Magnesium Phosphate, Magnesium Oxide, Sucralose, Beta Carotene. SuperPump250 Proprietary Blend [Gaspari Nutrition Novel Compound No. 250 (Patent Pending)]. Anabolic Signaling Complex (Patent Pending): L-Arginine Alpha-Ketoglutarate (A-AKG), L-Arginine Ketoisocaproate (A-KIC), Tri-Creatine Malate, Creatine Monohydrate, GuaniproTM (Guanidino Propionic Acid), American Ginseng Extract, White Willow Bark Extract (Standardized to 15% Salicin). Lipolytic/Xtreme Focus Agent (Patent Pending): L-Tyrosine, NAC (N-Acetyl-Cysteine), N-Acetyl-Tyrosine, Glucuronolactone, Methylxanthines (Caffeine), Rhodiola Rosea Root Extract (Standardized to 5% Total Rosavins), Ginko Biloba Extract (Standardized to 24% Ginkosides & 6% Terpenes), Vinpocetine, Huperzine. Myogenic Transcription Factor/Agonist (Patent Pending): Taurine, L-Leucine, L-Glutamine, L-Citruline AKG, L-Valine, L-Isoleucine, Acetyl-L-Carnitine, Turkesterone (11,20 Dihydroxyecdysone from Ajuga Turkestanica Extract), Choline Bitartrate. Insulin Secretagogue Complex (Patent Pending): Trimethylglycine, Indole-3-Carbinol, 4-Hydroxyisoleucine (from Fenugreek Seed Extract), Cinnamon Bark Extract (15% Cinnamic Aldehyde), Bacopa Monniera (Standardized for 20% Bacosides A & B). IntraSORB Rapid Absorption - Myo-Hydration Matrix: Potassium Bicarbonate, Sodium Bicarbonate, Potassium Gycerophosphate, Magnesium Glycerophosphate, Alpha Lipoic Acid, Bioperine. It's packed with arginine, magnesium and lots of test boosters, it also Expands your bloodflow exponentially. Im sure there are a thousand other pre workout drinks that contain these and more as well. I'm wondering if doing pe after taking this would be benificial. Also i have made a recovery drink from eas whey protein, amino acid complex, and l-gluteine, the three of which combined are packed with l-lysine and other great things included in the regular suppliment guide in JP's beginners guide. Combine with a mens power multivitamin... which is high in zinc and what have you, all your bases are pretty much covered. So if you subtract the cost of buying each vitamin and mineral individually ( L-arganine capsules being 18$ for 2 weeks where i am ) you basically come out with the same damage t your wallet, with alot of extra benifical stuff. Has anyone sucessfully tried something like this for pe, Or done their Pe after their workout whhen all this was still active in their blood stream, and how did it go.

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Pegasus Super Moderator Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 2,519	Ah a different thing alltogether I take it? This gel (androgel) adds test.

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phallic1 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 117	Well, green tea is not going to be any magic bullet that will give you a massive penis. It may help a bit with the androgen conversion but that is speculation. There is NO pill or dietary supplement that will give you measurable dramatic gains. I'm not against supplements by any means but from my extensive experience with damned near every possible supplement touted as an aphrodisiac or testosterone booster, the best thing they are good at is emptying your wallet.

10-09-2009	#198
Pegasus Super Moderator Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 2,519	Well supplements tend not to work as dramatically as drugs, but then they tend to have far less side effects also. I think you can have a supplements vs drugs argument with KP. Will say from a personal point of view, that there seems to be a attitude amongst some,(not saying you) that training without drugs is half arsed. Drugs are so endemic in some quarters, that training with them is seen as a virtue and people training without are looked down on. Well I have a problem with that.

10-10-2009	#200
Pegasus Super Moderator Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 2,519	Yes of course, these are widely available and well advertised. I used nano vapour for awhile ,which worked ok but made me hyper. Whey based drinks are ok but can be pricey. Bottom line, if you feel this is an effective way to supplement, then go for it, only I wouldn't get carried away with the hype.