[Lazy 8]

Originally Posted by remek

JB: Welcome to the Gym. It's always good to have a new theory thrown around

I agree that consistent is key (and skipping a workout can be a large setback). As for EP, on the surface it appears to have a solid theoretical foundation. The more pressure coming from the inside, the more it expands the tunica/SM. This appears to be why clamping works so well.

Your length gains are, well, magnificent to say the least. What have your girth gains been like?

Also, do you have any step-by-step recommendations on what men can do to improve their EP?

Remek, you have me baffled and a bit worried with the suggestion that skipping a workout can be a large setback. Others at the Gym have been saying you need to take time off - like at least a week every couple of months - after your first 90 days http://www.pegym.com/forums/advanced...nce-while.html. And newbie routines always have days off after a certain number of "on" days. My schedule is such that I am unable to have a consistent schedule so I take advantage of a moment when I can get in a workout. Sometimes it's three days in a row with three days off, sometimes it is every other day. To say that skipping a workout can cause setbacks makes me think I need to rethink my whole routine and get regular. I've had good benefits to date, but I'm looking for the surge in gains that some report comes after the first 90 days. What should I do?

[Radiohead]

I see a lot of potential in this thread.

So how can you increase erection pressure? You recommend having an erection for 30-60 minutes while you perform Ulis and jelqs on the penis? What about erect pumping?

I'd like more specific information on this. What exactly do you do? What are the exercises?

[Lazy 8]

Originally Posted by Jack Bauer

I was watching a youtube with this contortionist doing crazy bends and movements, and it got me to thinking of how they prepare their body to stretch to such an extreme. This website gave me A LOT of insights in the philosophy of stretching: The Contortionist's handbook v.2.0

I usually start with a stretching routine(up,down,left,right,V-stretches), BUT I use contortion type stretches which are much more effective. Then I move to intense slow jelqing at near 100%. The idea is to start at the base and force the penis to expand beyond the 100% mark. I then clamp very lightly and make the penis go to it's safe max(you have to listen to the body), for 15-45 minutes. One key is that I don't use manual stimualtion at all to acheive the erections. Mental erections seems to produce far better results(I think it a biochemical issue), but are a bitch to achieve at max for a longtime.

Also remember that health plays a big role. Exercise, eating lean foods, taking quality herbs like grapeseed, all help too.

I used to be able to think up an erection, but those days are gone - or they are so far. Maybe after another 6 months of PE I'll be able to do it again.

[Radiohead]

Originally Posted by Lazy 8

Remek, you have me baffled and a bit worried with the suggestion that skipping a workout can be a large setback. Others at the Gym have been saying you need to take time off - like at least a week every couple of months - after your first 90 days http://www.pegym.com/forums/advanced...nce-while.html. And newbie routines always have days off after a certain number of "on" days. My schedule is such that I am unable to have a consistent schedule so I take advantage of a moment when I can get in a workout. Sometimes it's three days in a row with three days off, sometimes it is every other day. To say that skipping a workout can cause setbacks makes me think I need to rethink my whole routine and get regular. I've had good benefits to date, but I'm looking for the surge in gains that some report comes after the first 90 days. What should I do?

Lazy 8, don't panic. You are doing everything just fine.

You are conditioning your penis. It is sensitive, it's a beginner penis. You need time to heal and recuperate.

After your beginner routine and many months later, your penis becomes very ''strong'' and you need more pressure and intensity. Some guys gain with the easy stretching and jelqing for years, but most of us need more intensity.

This theory of adding erection pressure relies on constant straining of the penis. It's different. It's a much higher level of penile exercising. Remek and the thread starter have 10 years of PE experience. That's quite impressive. It's like comparing an attending neurosurgeon to a medical school student. Two totally different worlds.

You're on the right track.

[Thimsile]

This theory does sound promising, you said you clamp after jelqing or do you just hold a uli for a long time?

[C.Phantasy]

Originally Posted by Jack Bauer

I was watching a youtube with this contortionist doing crazy bends and movements, and it got me to thinking of how they prepare their body to stretch to such an extreme. This website gave me A LOT of insights in the philosophy of stretching: The Contortionist's handbook v.2.0

I usually start with a stretching routine(up,down,left,right,V-stretches), BUT I use contortion type stretches which are much more effective. Then I move to intense slow jelqing at near 100%. The idea is to start at the base and force the penis to expand beyond the 100% mark. I then clamp very lightly and make the penis go to it's safe max(you have to listen to the body), for 15-45 minutes. One key is that I don't use manual stimualtion at all to acheive the erections. Mental erections seems to produce far better results(I think it a biochemical issue), but are a bitch to achieve at max for a longtime.

Also remember that health plays a big role. Exercise, eating lean foods, taking quality herbs like grapeseed, all help too.

Please evaluate in more detail

To me it sounds like your doing DLD´ Pulse stretching (Which have given good gains for many).

Regarding post stretching, try "Underwater Clamping" with a bucket of hot water. It has some really freaky potential with minimum risk of injury.

[Radiohead]

How do you perform the DLD pulse stretcher?

I like the idea of clamping in hot water. Sounds sexay!

[C.Phantasy]

Originally Posted by Radiohead

How do you perform the DLD pulse stretcher?

I like the idea of clamping in hot water. Sounds sexay!

Pulse stretching is doing regular stretching but shifting between 100% and 110% streching.

Like this:
10 seconds 90% stretched lenght,
10 seconds 100% stretched lenght,
110% stretched lenght,
10 seconds 90% stretch lenght etc... You get my point

Regarding underwater clamping,it fucking owns

[kingpole]

What is your grip level when you do PE (jelqing)?

[tkellyps]

Jack,

Thanks for this thread. I got a lot from it. And the more I thought about it, the more I got. I think you're absolutely right that one needs the maximum erection to obtain the most satisfactory results. And you're right, too, that the brain will give you that erection. I do my stretches and my slow jelqing and it goes as expected. And then you feel that particular tingle through your groin and then throughout your body. You know then that the brain has kicked in. You feel a hormonal rush. And you instantly see and feel the difference in your penis. But it is difficult to maintain that. I, too, will clamp at that point to help maintain, though I don't like to do so for more than 20 minutes at a time.

Seems to me that part of the problem with maintaining that erection is that we too often become "trained" to think of the erection as being just one step toward the ultimate goal of orgasm and ejaculation. If we don't follow through to orgasm and ejaculation, then the brain will tend to back off and then one goes flacid. Seems to me that one has to try to simply remove orgasm and ejaculation from the equation altogether, at least sometimes. Let the erection itself become the goal. Find satisfaction in a full hard erection. Find joy in it. Feel the exileration of the hormonal rush when body and mind are working together. We are like Pavlov's dogs. If we find joy/satisfaction in something, then our minds and bodies will remember and will help us to more easily recreate that experience. But it does take patience. And practice. And a rethinking of what gives us satisfaction. And fun.