[IdealPenis]

Here is a quote from "Chinese Herbal Medicine Modern Aplications Of Traditional Formulas" by Chongyun Liu & Angela Tseng with Sue Yang:

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Cold in the liver and liver channel

Cold stagnation in the Liver often manifests as cold extremities, abdominal pain, green or purple nails, or flaccid constriction of the penis, spasm of gastrocnemius muscle, and wiry or thin deep pulse. This is a direct attack of cold wich is acute. Furthermore, weakness of Liver function, and Yang defiency with excess Yin can manifest as fatigue, lost of endurance, fright, cold limbs and a deep slow pulse wich is more chroni. To treat these conditions, WU ZHU YU, CHUAN JIAO, GUI ZHI, FU ZI, XI XIN are combined with WU YAO and XIANG FU to smooth the liver, then REN SHEN and DANG GUI are added to warm and scatter the cold evil pathogens. WU ZHU YU TANG[EVODIA DECOCTION] and NUAM GAN JIAN[WARM THE LIVER DECOCTION] focus on warming and nourishing Liver. DANG GUI SI NI TANG[TANGKUEI DECOCTION FOR FRIGID EXTREMITIES] and WU YU MU GUA TANG[EVODIA AND CHINESE QUINCE FRUIT DECOCTION] focus on scatering cold and alleviating spasms.

Dang Gui Si Ni Tang [tangkuei decoction for frigid extremities] Shang Han Lun

1. Dang Gui 9g -Angelica
2. Bai Shao Yao 12g -White Peony Root
3. Gui Zhi 9g -Cinnamon
4. Xi Xin 3g -Wild Ginger(Wild Nard)
5. Gan Cao 6g -Sweet Root
6. Tong Cao 6g -Rice Paper Pith
7. Da Zao 9g -Black Date(Chinese Jujube)

MAIN INDICATION: Cold injured Jue Yin and congealed and stagnant blood in channels. Symptoms include coldness in the four limbs or cold pain at lower back, inguinal area, legs, and feet; pale tongue with white coating, and thin, minute or deep thin pulse.

PREPARATION: Decoction

Treatment Principles: Warm channel, scatter cold, nourish blood, and unblock channel.

In clinical practice, this formula can be used for congealed coldness and blood stasis type of wind-damp Bi pain, frostbite, and menstrual pain. It can also be used for cold type of one-sided abdominal pain or limb pain

Related formulas:

Core formula(Dang Gui Si Ni Tang [tangkuei decoction for frigid extremities] Shang Han Lun) plus WuZhu Yu 9g(evodia) and Sheng Jiang 9g(fresh ginger)
Indication; Threat flaccid contraction of penis, abdominal pain, cold extremities, or cold abdominal pain before menstruation in a person with cold constitution. This formula is stronger in its warming channel and scattering cold function."

There are treatments also for nocturnal emission, priapism. The recepe works in the opposite way that one above.When I have time maybe I will write it down.

This is only a informational thread. Some of the plants are toxic if over dose is administred.

[IdealPenis]

I decided that this hard flaccid that I have sometimes(also valid before I started PE) is due to some kind of disfunction. I also have cold extremities.
So reading some of this book I found this fomula for what they say is an excess of Yin in my liver.
So far I am experimenting with some of the herbs I found. Cinnamon, Fresh Ginger, Sweet Root. It is not a fancy tea that you can drink in a tea/cafe bar. Sweet root for exemple is not recommended over a long period of time to be administred.
Geting back on my experience so far is great for heating up the body, inclusive the penis. I can say that it seems to give me a bigger flacid(lenght and girth). I will keep you updated with my experience.

For the future days I hope to find Angelica herb in some shop around my town. Although this is a plant that grows in my country is not easy to be found in tea shops in the last few years. I think that the reasson is her toxicity.

Any of you who thinks to try this formula I recommend to do at least a research on this herbs.

[IdealPenis]

Here goes the second part:

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Nuan Gan Jian [warm the Liver Decoction]

Xiao Hui Xiang 6 g
Rou Gui 6 g
Wu Yao 6 g
Chen Xiang (or Mu Xiang) 3 g
Fu Ling 9 g
Dang Gui 9 g
Gou Qi Zi 12 g
Sheng Jiang 9 g

Main Indication: Cold stagnation in the Liver and Kidney. Symptoms include lower abdominal pain, hernia, pale dusky tongue with thin white coating and deep slow or deep wiry pulse.

Preparation: Grind Chen Xiang into powder, decoct other herbs and thake the chen xiang powder after drinking decoction.

Treatment Principles: Warm Kidney and Liver, move Qi and stop pain.

This formula mainly treats cold type of hernia pain from external genitalia to lower abdomen. Patiant often has internal exccesive cold and Yin with external cold evil invasion.

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Comparison of Formulas Treating Cold in Liver and Liver Channel

Dang Gui Si Ni Tang [Tangkuei Decoction for Frigid Extremities] and Wu Yu Mu Gua Tang
[Evodia and Chinese Quince Fruit Decoction] treat cold evil damaging Jue Yin with tight tendons
and acute pain. The focus of these formulas is to warm the Liver, move Qi, and moderate and stop
the pain. Wu Zhu Yu Tang [Evodia Decoction] and Nuan Gan Jian [Warm the Liver Decoction]
treat internal excess of coldness in Liver or damage to Stomach or Kidney. The focus of this formula
is to warm Liver, Stomach, and Kidney, move Qi, and stop pain."

[IdealPenis]

I have a first update after 6 days since my first tea (ginger, cinnamon,sweet root) For the last 2 days I added Angelica(bitter taste).
About the heat effect on the body I can say it works.

Most importantly is the soft flaccid that I have for some days. From time to time I still experience some hard flaccid, but is much less than before.
Esspecialy in the morning the penis is hanging bigger than usually. This observation is not definitive. This is an intermediate observation. I will keep you updated with my experience.

Another change is that I have a growth in the appetite for food. I am a little skiny so It is good for me. From eating 3 times a day I am now on 4 times a day. I am not into sports anymore.

[Walagrt]

Hello! How are your results now ?
Regards!

[IdealPenis]

I have to say that the experiment has stoped due to a lack of knowledge on how to diagnositic 100% according to Ayurveda. So this treatment worked to some point.

Why I stoped?
1. I have light hipertension. Sweet wood is not recomended to people having hipertension and I experinced some hipertension after drinking these.
2. Headaches after administrating the tea lately. This seems to be an effect of Angelica. Angelica is known for relieaving pain in doses smaller than 6g. I used it 4 times. Last 2 times it gived me headaches, aldo my dosage was 5g first time, 4g second time and around 3g last 2 times. It seems that I needed Lower doses.
3. Most importantly I stoped because I didn't have a good diagnostic upon my health state. Continuing it may do more damage than good.
I think the alternative medicine(on this case herbal medicine) DO WORK. The condition is to know what you have to do. I read a book.>This dose not make me a specialist. By the way the book did not emphasized upon diagnosticating in the absolute way such ayurveda's diagnosis.

Regarding the hard flacid it seemd that it worked as long as I administred tha tea. Know I just try to have my body as warm as possible. The fall is coming..

[kingpole]

Originally Posted by IdealPenis

I have to say that the experiment has stoped due to a lack of knowledge on how to diagnositic 100% according to Ayurveda. So this treatment worked to some point.

Why I stoped?
1. I have light hipertension. Sweet wood is not recomended to people having hipertension and I experinced some hipertension after drinking these.
2. Headaches after administrating the tea lately. This seems to be an effect of Angelica. Angelica is known for relieaving pain in doses smaller than 6g. I used it 4 times. Last 2 times it gived me headaches, aldo my dosage was 5g first time, 4g second time and around 3g last 2 times. It seems that I needed Lower doses.
3. Most importantly I stoped because I didn't have a good diagnostic upon my health state. Continuing it may do more damage than good.
I think the alternative medicine(on this case herbal medicine) DO WORK. The condition is to know what you have to do. I read a book.>This dose not make me a specialist. By the way the book did not emphasized upon diagnosticating in the absolute way such ayurveda's diagnosis.

Regarding the hard flacid it seemd that it worked as long as I administred tha tea. Know I just try to have my body as warm as possible. The fall is coming..

You need to relax the tissue keep up on the cinnamon and ginger. Combine they can relax and increase cirrculation. you want to stay with something that is safe in the long term. Hard flaccid is a long term condition. Also have you tried ginkgo?

You need to try erection tea. also add in some cayenne pepper to your diest or hot spicy foods that contain red pepper.

[kingpole]

Erection Tea

[IdealPenis]

Thanks for the advice. I still drink from time to time ginger tea.

About red pepper. That is not for my. It dose not feel good in my stomach.
Although I eat it when I eat chinese food at the restaurant. This way seems that is accepted by my stomach. Chinese science.. .. who knows

[RockofFox]

Mate, might I suggest that you consult a qualified practitioner of Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM). You should exercise great caution with trying to self diagnose, as many of these herbal combinations are powerful, synergistic and very very specific. For example "Cold in liver" is not definately "Liver Yin excess", you might have a cold liver and in fact be deficient in Yin energy, but be even more deficient in Liver Yang (although unlikely in the western world as our treats such as meat, alcohol, tobacco, and rich foods tend to heat the liver".
So you can see here that if you try to treat a liver Yin deficiency you may be doing yourself more harm than good.
A professional will have all the diagnostic tools (pulse, examination (tongue, face) questioning), and will be able to make an accurate assessment and offer the appropriate course of treatment.
Hope this helps!!