[ReetB]

I lifted this from the following site - (Blocked by JP.)I'm not sure if they're trying to sell anything, but this is the first site that I've read that discounts jelqing and prefers stretching!

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This information is designed to sell you penis weights.

Jelk,milking and similar massaging techniques.

The method called Jelq or milking is a technique that appeared in the penis enlargement scene in the late nineties.This is the ingenious idea: Let us create an exercise that will allow the candidate to be busy with his penis every day,creating in him the illusion that he is doing something to increase the size of it.While he is doing that useless exercise let as sell him a myriad of memberships to paid web sites,and products also useless (such as penis pills,penis pumps,and penis stretchers,you name it).

The commercial promoters of Jelq are resourcefull,clever and reckless ,and they created a "web" of false claims to entangle their potential clients which includes many so called "free" sites and forums that support Jelq as a legitimate method,making believe that even the "objective" free sites believe in that lousy waste of time and energy.

What is Jelq under any name?Is basically to grab your penis at its basis with an embrace of your thumb and forefinger,and squeeze forward till the embrace reaches the head of the penis.They claim that this forces blood into the penis tissue forcefully so that the size of the penis "corpus cavernosum" cells increases,generating an increase in penis size.Any medical doctor will tell you that this is nearly impossible.The goal of Jelq is to make you exercise with your penis without exerting a real strong stretch on it(which is the only action that would generate penis enlargement).

Jelq has generally two effects:

1) a massaging effect which has no influence in penis enlargement

2) a stretching effect,which has an outcome on penis lengthening which is proportional with the tensile force applied and the time logged.

In this case we are talking about around or less that fifteen minutes a day(net stretching time of 60 minutes Jelking very vigorously),and a quite mild tensile force,so the enlarging effect is nill.With penis weights every hanging minute is a net stretching minute,and you also know the strength(weight) of the stretch is intense enough to generate penis enlargement.
Even if Jelq is useless,that does not mean real penis enlargement cannot take place while using only your hands:

The oldest and only by hand method that works is given to you right here:

The classical by hand stretching technique.

How does proper penis stretching work? It is based on the principle of action and adjustment of living tissue.The principle states that if you apply an action towards any living tissue,the organism will react changing to meet the challenge.In other words if you stretch your penis at the right intensity and with the proper means of holding the penis,the living tissue will go through the following two processes:

1) Microscopic gaps between the penile tissue cells will be generated that are like small wounds,which in order to heal require the generation of new tissue cells(IN practical terms this translates into penis lengthening)

2)The overall cross section of the penis(its girth or width) will have to increase so that the average tensile stress applied to a unit (a square inch) returns to an acceptable level(this would be the adjustment to an external action).Therefore the penis will also gain thickness.

Because of those two reasons,if you use stretching wisely,meaning the right grip of your penis,the right tensile stress,the right amount of time,the right precautions.In one word if you apply the correct penis enlargement stretching methodology,you will gain inches,both in length and girth.

By hand stretching is certainly the most widespread method of penis enlargement used by men.Millions use it at certain stage on life (mostly in the youth) to increase penis size.Yet the vast majority of penis enlargement seekers do not know it because this technique is father-sun word of mouth transmitted among the "initiated".Our service to you is to disclose this simple,yet powerful technique.

It consists on grabbing the penis with one hand,in such a way that your pinkie finger exercises pressure upon the glans (the head) of your penis,and all the other fingers press against the shaft of it,and once you grabbed it like this,you pull the hand away from the body,applying a tensile stress on the penis.

Do not be concerned about how exactly to grab the penis.Is a matter of experience.The idea is that you grab the penis in any way you find comfortable and stretch it by pulling away from the body.The gains will be linearly proportional to the amount of time that you hold the penis under tensile stress.Many people do it in bed ,one hour before going to sleep and one our before leaving bed.This system works,although slowly,is safe and obviously inexpensive.

You could achieve gains of less than 1/3 of an inch per year average if you pull 2 hours a day.Those gains will vary from individual to individual and their cumulative effect is felt after 10 or 15 years.This is obviously not a quick fix or even a reasonably fast method but it works as a lifetime quest,and as such it is being used by millions on a daily basis to ensure slow but sure gains.

It is essential to point out that the hand stretch does not work for everybody,apparently having to do with the personal ability to get a "good grip" that ensures that the force acting upon the penis is strong enough to be of any use.This ability is called also "good luck".
In order to get a large penis,in some point you need a minimal amount of good luck.How can you tell when you are getting lucky and when you are getting ripped off?

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I think it's a load of rubbish, but unfortunately, a lot of people will probably buy into this.

Who ever said PE was simple

[ReetB]

Further to my above post, just searching on Google, there appear to be a lot of sites that state PE does not work, including medical doctors.

I find this frustrating as I myself have seen gains. However one of the arguments I saw stated that "perceived gains" were merely improved erection quality. I don't agree with this because my EQ was at least 9 out of 10 before I started PE and it's still about the same, even though I have gained in size.

I get really frustrated with the lack of belief in PE that appears to be out there. We once though the earth was flat but that was disproved. I just hope one day these people will recognise PE as a valid way to increase your size.

[IdealPenis]

Yes it can by frustrating al this afirmation, but here is what I think now.

I think that PE is like a religion.
Those who belive and/or practice PE long enough will get results.

Now, who am I to convince others that PE is the way for them?

If they ask my help or my opinion, I will share with them this "religion".

If they don't, it is not my business what they choose to belive.

[ReetB]

Forgot to add that I met with a friend of mine at lunch who I know very well and he's been having problems with erections. He mentioned this to me as he and his wife are trying for a baby and confided in me that he was having "problems".

Not wanting to pry, I suggested that he looked up jelqing on the internet as this might improve his EQ. Anyway, this was about a month ago and meeting him at lunch today, he mentioned that he'd seen his urologist and mentioned the jelqing exercises to him.

The urologist told him that this would not work because what he is trying to do is stretch the blood vessels, lengthwise and width wise, and no amount of jelqing will do that.

I tried to explain that it wasn't about stretching the blood vessels, but more so the chambers within the penis. However he's convinced it won't work.

I actually feel quite sad today as I really thought I could help him out, but he's not willing to give jelqing a chance

[PhibbysHammer]

Maybe you should slip him a piece of paper with www,pegym for male sexual health written on it anonomously Reet? I feel your pain, but its hard to compete with a doctor.

[JonPop]

Reet, as well intentioned as you are, that first post was a bad idea. Do you know how many lurkers will read only that post, click on that link, and wind up like your friend?

At least go back and remove the link. Place a disclaimer above that thread title and warn people that this is is the latest way that the internet is using to debunk the PE Exercises.

We have had a rash of posters lately, trying to claim injury from only doing PE one time, and once they are challenged, they no longer post.

EDIT: I'd like to add; This site, like so many others that are debunking the exercises, is there with this garbage, to sell you something. Their weight system consist of a very poor knock-off of the BIB hanger and gym weights. Do you realize how much profit they would make on the shipping alone?

I can't stress enough the concerted effort that is taking place on the net to dissuade men from undertaking the simple and proven, penis exercises. There is no profit from (free) sites such as the PE Gym and there is no shortage of unscrupulous people that are willing to say ANYTHING, in order to get you to buy something.

[shane_syndrome]

lol either this is wrong or my ruler wants to lie to me

[JonPop]

Or Mrs. Pop is lying to me. *Hee*

[IdealPenis]

Originally Posted by ReetB

Forgot to add that I met with a friend of mine at lunch who I know very well and he's been having problems with erections. He mentioned this to me as he and his wife are trying for a baby and confided in me that he was having "problems".

Not wanting to pry, I suggested that he looked up jelqing on the internet as this might improve his EQ. Anyway, this was about a month ago and meeting him at lunch today, he mentioned that he'd seen his urologist and mentioned the jelqing exercises to him.

The urologist told him that this would not work because what he is trying to do is stretch the blood vessels, lengthwise and width wise, and no amount of jelqing will do that.

I tried to explain that it wasn't about stretching the blood vessels, but more so the chambers within the penis. However he's convinced it won't work.

I actually feel quite sad today as I really thought I could help him out, but he's not willing to give jelqing a chance

ReetB why are you blaming yourself?

You did the best and whished to do best. Stop blaming yourself. You are not responsable with world penis salvation.

If there are people who don't have brains and heart to analize informations, maybe is better that they won't be able to have children.

[Big Al]

This looks like the text from the "Size Warrior" line of sites. They downplay any other method in order to sell their shabby homemade hangers and ridiculously overpriced weight discs. I had issues with them awhile back when they posted some URLs to my sites (they took them down after I got in touch with them about it).

Some interesting reading: Size warrior device