Andractim

[Dreambig]

I am using andractim gel from the all saints clinic, been on it for 2 weeks now.
I have been applying one day on and one off (at first 2.5g then I went to 5g), usually after I get the pores open as much as I can. To do this I either sit in steam or use a heated wash cloth ( same as a warmup routine ). Almost forgot to mention this, but I apply it to my penis and whatever is left goes on my testicles and inner thighs. (sorry for the run on sentence.)

The biggest fear for me has been hairloss, and so far so good. Taking both pill and liquid saw pamello.

I cannot tell if there have been any gains as of yet, but I do feel a spike in my overall sex drive.

Also I have had ED problems which means that I never get a morning wood, but I find myself waking up with a halfer every now and then.

It could be all from exersicing, which I do 1 day on and 1 day off now. There is no way to confirm any of this yet.

The reason I bought DHT gel was because I wanted to maximize my gain/time ratio.

I will continue to post here and there, also I would be happy to take any advice or answer any questions.

-thanks and good luck

[shane_syndrome]

good luck bro , cant wait to hear about your results ... PE combined with the dht gel should help with your ED , make sure you do lots of keegles

[Waylander]

Originally Posted by Dreambig

I am using andractim gel from the all saints clinic, been on it for 2 weeks now.
I have been applying one day on and one off (at first 2.5g then I went to 5g), usually after I get the pores open as much as I can. To do this I either sit in steam or use a heated wash cloth ( same as a warmup routine ). Almost forgot to mention this, but I apply it to my penis and whatever is left goes on my testicles and inner thighs. (sorry for the run on sentence.)

The biggest fear for me has been hairloss, and so far so good. Taking both pill and liquid saw pamello.

I cannot tell if there have been any gains as of yet, but I do feel a spike in my overall sex drive.

Also I have had ED problems which means that I never get a morning wood, but I find myself waking up with a halfer every now and then.

It could be all from exersicing, which I do 1 day on and 1 day off now. There is no way to confirm any of this yet.

The reason I bought DHT gel was because I wanted to maximize my gain/time ratio.

I will continue to post here and there, also I would be happy to take any advice or answer any questions.

-thanks and good luck

I have ED issues aswell. The andractim cures that for a short while. After you stop using the gel, your sex drive slows back down gradually. You should be thinking about your Post PE routine. According to recomendations, you take a extended break, after you stop the treatment. I've lightend my routine some, but should probably slow down some more? Whats your plan? I had no hair loss issues, and I noticed an increase in beard growth. Hope this helps.

[Dreambig]

Originally Posted by Waylander

I have ED issues aswell. The andractim cures that for a short while. After you stop using the gel, your sex drive slows back down gradually. You should be thinking about your Post PE routine. According to recomendations, you take a extended break, after you stop the treatment. I've lightend my routine some, but should probably slow down some more? Whats your plan? I had no hair loss issues, and I noticed an increase in beard growth. Hope this helps.

Hello Waylander, Thank you for the feedback.
My routine is a bit different as I am returning to PE after 3 years of inactivity. During that off time I was still using my extender device here and there, but no manual stretches or jelqing. Late september of '09 was when I started very lightly with stretches, and jelqs. Till October, that is when I got "exersicing the penis", and now I am on my 2nd week of the beginners program from the book, with modifications like ballooning, clamping, and hanging with golf weights (awesome buy in my opinion!), also I never use my extender any more (such a rip off)...

So as for my plan with the DHT gel... After 5 weeks of beginner PE, I will make the transition to an advanced routine straight from the book (I also plan on ordering a maxvac hanger at the 5 week mark.) I will continue using DHT gel until the first tube is empty, if it takes 5 weeks to finish the tube then I will take 5 weeks off DHT gel. This will be a good time to evaluate size increases on and off of the gel. I hope that I find that I gain much better on DHT gel, mainly because I spent 200 bucks on the stuff and I want my moneys worth... But in the event that I gain better off of the gel, or the same as on then I won't be to upset (as long as I gain I'm gonna feel happy)... As for taking an extended break, I will just have to watch my body cue's for signs of stress. I will continue PE'ing solid while I gain, but I can't see taking any more off than a week or two.

Quite a bit of information here, didn't mean to over due it. Comments and questions are welcome.

[Waylander]

Originally Posted by Dreambig

Hello Waylander, Thank you for the feedback.
My routine is a bit different as I am returning to PE after 3 years of inactivity. During that off time I was still using my extender device here and there, but no manual stretches or jelqing. Late september of '09 was when I started very lightly with stretches, and jelqs. Till October, that is when I got "exersicing the penis", and now I am on my 2nd week of the beginners program from the book, with modifications like ballooning, clamping, and hanging with golf weights (awesome buy in my opinion!), also I never use my extender any more (such a rip off)...

So as for my plan with the DHT gel... After 5 weeks of beginner PE, I will make the transition to an advanced routine straight from the book (I also plan on ordering a maxvac hanger at the 5 week mark.) I will continue using DHT gel until the first tube is empty, if it takes 5 weeks to finish the tube then I will take 5 weeks off DHT gel. This will be a good time to evaluate size increases on and off of the gel. I hope that I find that I gain much better on DHT gel, mainly because I spent 200 bucks on the stuff and I want my moneys worth... But in the event that I gain better off of the gel, or the same as on then I won't be to upset (as long as I gain I'm gonna feel happy)... As for taking an extended break, I will just have to watch my body cue's for signs of stress. I will continue PE'ing solid while I gain, but I can't see taking any more off than a week or two.

Quite a bit of information here, didn't mean to over due it. Comments and questions are welcome.

We should stay in touch. I still have another tube left, and plan on using it with my PE in the future. We could compare results, and ideas? I think there is a friends list option? I'll add you, if your interested?

[Lazy 8]

Originally Posted by Waylander

I have ED issues aswell. The andractim cures that for a short while. After you stop using the gel, your sex drive slows back down gradually. You should be thinking about your Post PE routine. According to recomendations, you take a extended break, after you stop the treatment. I've lightend my routine some, but should probably slow down some more? Whats your plan? I had no hair loss issues, and I noticed an increase in beard growth. Hope this helps.

Here's some info posted on BeABiggerMan that may be helpful. (Consider this post with caution; can't tell if they are promoting Andractim as an income stream!)

An amazing treatment to use for penis enlargement is Andractim gel. It's actually topical DHT (dihydrotestosterone) - a metabolite of testosterone. DHT is many times stronger than testosterone and has a high affinity for the androgen receptors in penis tissue. It doesn't convert to estrogen like testosterone does, a good thing.

Andractim gel gets great results for penis enlargement. It triggers growth like nothing else can. DHT is the hormone responsible for development of all male sexual characteristics like body hair, beards, and you guessed it, penis growth!

How to use DHT gel for penis enlargement:

The way to use DHT gel successfully is to apply it in cycles. Your body will compensate after a while to the excess DHT by down regulating the androgen receptors making DHT less effective. So what to do? here's a good way to go:

Start using the DHT gel. One dose applied to the penis every day. You will notice it's effects within a couple days. Sign are increased sex drive, harder erections, more morning wood, things like that.

Hit your PE routine hard. As long as you feel the positive effects of the DHT gel continue intense PE workouts (usually a few weeks).

When the effects of the DHT gel seem to be wearing off, stop using it. You should also stop the intense workouts. You can keep up a light routine but during this period your letting your body return to normal. Your penis is also healing.

When you feel ready start another cycle. You should let a few weeks go by before you start again. This gives time for the androgen receptors to up regulate back into the penis tissues.

Each cycle of DHT gel should give you measurable gains, as much as 1/4 to 1/2 inch each cycle. After a few cycles these gains really add up!

The only commercially available topical DHT gel is Andractim. You have to fill out an online form when ordering. Don't state penis enlargement as the reason for use! You can state it's for increasing sex drive (if over 45yrs. old) or you have Gynecomastia (bitch tits).

[Waylander]

When the effects of the DHT gel seem to be wearing off, stop using it. You should also stop the intense workouts. You can keep up a light routine but during this period your letting your body return to normal. Your penis is also healing.

This light routine is the post pe routine I was talking about. It isnt very clear on exactly how light a routine should be used. Like mentioned, I gues you just pay attention to how your body react's to the post exercises. It's VERY hard to back off your routine once started(at least it is for me).

[Dreambig]

Hey Waylander, I would love a friend to study the results of the dht gel, sounds like a great idea! Thank you for the suggestion.

On another note I was watching a video on youtube that had a transgender talking about "his" use of DHT gel, and in summary claimed gains of 1 centimeter in the first 5 weeks. Also "he" mentioned that his hairline did seem to thin a bit, but was not put off because it gave a more masculine appeal "not my words, his."

Ok so this was one of the only sources of someone using dht gel (andractim), which is disappointing because it is not exactly something that I feel inspires confidence in the use of the substance for penis enlargement.

Another issue I am having is that I cheated a couple of days and applied DHT in smaller doses of 2.5g to 5g for about 4 days, and I am sort of freaking out about hair loss now. There are so many issues that state DHT as one of the leading causes for hair loss as well as an accelerator for male pattern baldness. I'm 25 and I have longer hair, but a bit of a receeding hair line not much but enough... I have had a nice spike in sex drive, and even morning wood when I use it though.

Some options that I have come up with are 1. Stopping , 2. Wait until I start using a dht blocking shampoo 3. Taking a break for a couple weeks and seeing if my scalp feels any different. Either way I think I should not use anymore than 2.5g every other day, or maybe even less frequently...

You know in the big picture of things, I think that PE on it's own works, and devices can be helpful too. DHT gel might cause more rapid gains to occur, but at the cost of losing any more of my hairline robs the overall benefits of feeling more confident.

So now I ask any readers what their candid opinion is of my post is??? Just over reacting? Which option would be the most prudent decision?

Thank you.

[Dreambig]

Lazy 8, thank you for the post earlier.

Have you ever used dht gel?

[Toxis]

haven't any of you read up on andractim. androstanolone is known to cause prostate cancer. why are you more worried about your hair?