The Penis (smooth) Muscle Theory

[Iguana]

Originally Posted by remek

We only have a few points left.

We're still kind of stuck on this point, unless you have some new ideas: Girth is greater when semi-erect than when erect.

Here's where we left off:

Any insight on the length size during this phenomenon would take care this point and solidify our reasoning. Do you remember if it was the same, or do you know of anyone who measured in this instance?

I tried taking some measurements for this point. It's very difficult to measure true length at 70-80% erection. It definitely measures shorter.
I think this one can chalked up to reshaping of the tunica.

[remek]

Here's a PM I sent to Iguana of how "newbie gains" might be explained with this theory:

Newbie gains are usually:

1. Fairly quick (ranging from days to months)
2. Followed by a dramatic increase in hardness.

My guess is that newbie gains are largely a result of an increase in smooth muscle growth (causing the increase in hardness). This would make sense considering the smooth muscle is probably much easier to enlarge (actually, I'm guessing it's multiply for the smooth muscle cells) than the tunica is.

Anyway, I know we're excited about this - but let's not rush into posting this just yet. I want to put our best foot forward, and give our theory the best possible chance of success. In due time . . . they'll flock to our theory if its right regardless of whose posting or not

[remek]

Here's a post Iguana sent me about his experience and how it coincides with the theory:

Something interesting, when I started my decon break my BPFSL to BPEL difference was 3/8" and I had very poor EQ the entire time of my break. After about a 4 days on my new routine I was experiencing much improved EQ and even regained my losses.
When I measured my BPFSL - BPEL difference again. It was only 1/4."

Now, after 11 days, my BPFLS is starting to increase again and I am up to about 1/2" difference and.... my EQ is starting to go down again. I can't believe I am over-training. I am stretching 15 min a day, I'm up to 140 jelqs per day and wearing my PM (at the lowest tension) for 6 hours. Not quite a brutal routine. This week I will have completed 2 weeks on this routine. I think it is too stretch (tunica) oriented. Starting next week, I'm going to stop stretching and only focus on SM (jelqs, clamps, and pump.) It will be interesting to see if my EQ improves. So, I will be the first guinea pig to PE through a weak erection.

[remek]

Originally Posted by Iguana

I tried taking some measurements for this point. It's very difficult to measure true length at 70-80% erection. It definitely measures shorter.
I think this one can chalked up to reshaping of the tunica.

Sounds good, we'll 86 it for now.

I used to do these exercises I called "Hammerheads" which were basically a compression squeeze done at about a 70%-80% erection. They seemed to give great lateral expansion. Like the O-Bend, you feel these in the tunica much more than in the SM. His choice of exercises may be very slim but I think your last recommendation makes the most sense.

Hammerheads, eh? Can you do me a favor and do a step-by-step of the exercise?

[remek]

Originally Posted by Iguana

remek, would it be clearer to say the smooth muscle volume isn't sufficent to press firmly against the tunica?
If we say relaxed, it may imply there could be a biochemical problem imparing SM relaxation, like lack of nitric oxide.

Isn't it more of a SM volume issue than a lack of relaxation. I ask because I haven't had a chance to read your resource links. I may be missing something.

Yea, you're right on.

[remek]

Iguana, I vote we throw this one out:

- Poor flaccid hang and/or turtling

The guy I was telling you about before has a great flaccid hang (a real grower) and his BPFSL/BPEL ratio and erection strength suggests that the tunica is limiting his gains. Plus, we were already unsure about this one to begin with.

[remek]

Iguana: We've established that a few exercises might hit the tunica for girth (o-bends, hammerheads, etc). What about the opposite? Have any ideas for length exercises that might hit the SM? Perhaps erect stretching?

[Iguana]

Originally Posted by remek

Sounds good, we'll 86 it for now.
Hammerheads, eh? Can you do me a favor and do a step-by-step of the exercise?

This is probably not an new exercise; it was my incorrect interpretation of how to do a horse440s (they are similar.)
I started doing these early on for girth thinking I was doing a horse440 until I went back and re-read the directions.

Hammerhead Girth Exercise

1. Start with about 50-60% erection.
2. Place right hand around base and clamp off like a tourniquet.
3. Form an "OK" grip with forefinger and thumb of left hand.
4. Slide OK grip over glans with thumb and forefinger closest to body - left hand is facing opposite of right.
(If you pushed your hands together your thumbs and forefingers would touch)
(It looks like your inverted fist is hammering the your glans, hence the name)
5. Tighten OK grip and push entire penis back as if you were trying to touch both hands together.
6. Hold at maximum expansion
7. Repeat

Imagine gripping a long balloon with both hands and then pushing it together to force air into the center.
As your hands get closer together, your penis will be expand and be forced out in the middle.
When you get the technique down you can move the both hands up and down the shaft to target different areas.

CAUTION: This is an advanced exercise that creates a lot of internal pressure! Ease off if it hurts. Don't rupture anything!
Do not do this exercise if you are a newbie! You will get injured.

I hope this is clear. Please feel free to post any questions.

[Iguana]

Originally Posted by remek

Iguana, I vote we throw this one out:

The guy I was telling you about before has a great flaccid hang (a real grower) and his BPFSL/BPEL ratio and erection strength suggests that the tunica is limiting his gains. Plus, we were already unsure about this one to begin with.

I agree. This can be revisited if necessary.

[Iguana]

Originally Posted by remek

Iguana: We've established that a few exercises might hit the tunica for girth (o-bends, hammerheads, etc). What about the opposite? Have any ideas for length exercises that might hit the SM? Perhaps erect stretching?

Wow, this is a hard one. This is probably the least targeted tissue exercise of them all. I have never tried erect stretching.
Do you know of anyone who has? Flaccid stretching probably hits the SM to a degree but there has to be something that would be more effective. I was thinking maybe narrow cylinder pumping? There is still a huge debate over whether or not pumping affects the tunica or SM. Jelqing would have to have some effect. Lots of guys claim to have gained length from it.