[babbis]

Hello!

I have started a trial to evaluate how effective extenders and ADSes are.

I have created 4 forums for this purpose; Group 1 - extender work only, Group 2 - extender work ++ (basically means that you are doing have other forms/methods of PE in your routine along with extender usage), Group 3 - ADS work only, Group 4 - ADS work ++.

Anyone that are using a ADS or a extender can join this trial. If you want to contribute, all you have to do is to let me know what routine you will follow in this thread or in a PM, tell me what your nick is (so I can approve your account) either in this thread or in a PM, then I will give you access to the forum and you can log your efforts there.

Each person will only have access to the group that fits their routine. This may not be a very fun/entertaining trial but I hope to get enough people to log their efforts so that we can draw some pretty strong conclusions from it after a while.

So far, only I and a fellow member, Kristian8.0 are logging our efforts. I just got a small injury so I must rest for a couple of days. I have been using my vac-extender for 12 hours for a little over a week and have been doing A-stretches when ever I had to take the extender off. Can not wait to get back to the routine.

Like I said, anyone that are using a extender or a ADS in their routine are invited to log their efforts so that we can determine how effective these devices actually are.

Sign up at; www.start-growing.com/forum

Please remember to let me know your nick and your routine as soon as possible since you will not get access before I give it to you. My forum is a closed forum and I am not trying to create another on-line community. I only use it in an attempt to gather data more effectively so that I can help my fellow PEers gain more with less effort though smart PE.

Kind regards,

babbis

[remek]

babbis,

Good luck with the trial. You may want to add a 5th group (PE only), so you can compare the results of ADS + PE to just PE.

I can't wait to see the results.

[babbis]

You mean a group for routines that does not include extender work or ADS-work? I will do that right now! Can not freggin believe I did not think of that! Thanks!

Also, do not hold your breath regarding results. Sadly it seems most people are not motivated for a "trial" like this since one must make it a habit to log ones PE-efforts and since the trial is quite "gray", IE; nothing fancy about it, log your routine, stay consistent and keep doing it for as long as you can endure.

Like I have mentioned to you in the past; I honestly believe most people see very little gain from their PE-efforts and that gaining 1" in BPEL will take most people well over a year. I am talking about actual gains here. Not "gains" from different measuring methods.

Sorry, was not my intention to come off with a negative wibe.. Come join the trial people! Your part in this trial; Do your routine, log on to my forum, write your efforts in your progress log, go about the rest of your day.

[SouthGA_Boy]

i would be up for it, just tell me what i need to do

[Dustpan]

babbis,

Are you including guy like myself that has gained over 2.5 inches in you trial?

[babbis]

Originally Posted by SouthGA_Boy

i would be up for it, just tell me what i need to do

Excellent! All you have to do is let me know roughly what kind of routine you intend on following for the next 1-2 months, tell me what your nick will be, sign up at the address in the first post of this thread and I will give you access to my forum and to the forum that you will log your efforts in.

Right now the server for my forum is down but my people are on it and they will fix it soon enough. I will let you guys know when it is up and running again.

Originally Posted by Dustpan

babbis,

Are you including guy like myself that has gained over 2.5 inches in you trial?

Yes, of course! I hope that many of you veterans join as I am curious to see if you guys still gain/can kick start some gains again! Veterans, non-gainers, beginners, everyone are invited.

All I am trying to do is to make people log their efforts in a semi controlled environment to gather data more effectively. This way it should be possible to see clear trends regarding gains and what most likely caused them. I will of course share all my findings here and over at thunders place.

I am also participating in this trial and I am using the vac-extender. Right now I am healing from a small sore on the ridge of my glans but I think I can start up again now! Yesterday I came up with the idea that compeed anti friction stick could work so I am testing it today. My sore has gotten a good layer of skin over it so it does not hurt anymore. 5min ago I used my vacu-hanger to stretch in various directions (string fastened to the hanger and to a door know, carefully using my body weight to get the right amount of stretch, holding for 30 sec.). Then I put on my vac-extender and plan on having it on for 12 hours today.

[babbis]

Forum is up again! If you are interested in joining this trial, read the first post and sign up!

[SouthGA_Boy]

signed up under the same username

[babbis]

Excellent! I just activated your account. You have access to group 5 (Other - no extender or ADS work). Let me know if that will be your route. Start a progress thread and log your efforts every day or every week. Welcome to the team!

[remek]

babbis,

How much have you gained total since you started PE?