[kce]

Okay so, I've been peing for well over 6 months now and have not seen any gains. I have tried different things and without going into too much detail on every thing i have tried, i believe that I could not be doing these things so wrong that i wouldn't see any growth. I mean it is the same girth and length that it was when i first started. Now this isn't to say I am giving up... not yet anyway. I want try one more thing- a penis pump. However i am a college student with little money so i wanted to know what was a good price for one. i hear that regular use of this thing will at least provide some increase in girth. really it doesn't have to be much, just enough to show that growth is possible. So I am asking for any and all information on this that can help me. Thanks.

[kce]

bump

[kce]

bump...again

[PhibbysHammer]

First off, I can't tell you that you've been doing everything totally wrong, but what I can say is SOMETHING IS WRONG if you don't even have an increase in erection quality. At the very least PE gave me an increase in size simply from the improvement in erection Quality. There is a chance that you have some chemical/enzyme or even vitamin issues going on if your body is not repairing and regenerating properly, but I'm of the mind that you haven't been totally faithful to any regular program.

Your first post was DOUBTING yet you admitted to better EQ then? http://www.pegym.com/forums/beginner...bie-doubt.html
That is a positive PI and Gain had to come with the EQ improvement.
Another post you mentioned Larger veins, which is also a helathy positive PI showing gains. http://www.pegym.com/forums/beginner...de-effect.html
You also mentioned in another post that you had a problem, taking a long time to reach orgasm. Taking too long to cum Which could stem from some of those other physical problems I talked about earlier.

Lastly you say you've been PE'ing for 6 months yet your other posts clearly say different and put you closer at 4-5 months.
Now I'm not busting your chops here or trying to argue with your lack of gains, but if you can be so inconsistent in your information presented to us, I have to believe that you are probably inconsistent with your exersizes as well. I suggest you start the 90 day program again and dedicate to it religeously as I have and hopefully you'll see more gains. Mine are below to give you an idea of what makes me believe. Also please look at this post............
http://www.pegym.com/forums/success-...html#post40222

I want you to have success, but Neither myself nor anyone else can do it for you and there is no magic overnight formula. If what you are doing is NOT WORKING then its simple............................CHANGE WHAT YOU ARE DOING!!!

[kce]

understand your doubts in my words, let me clarify.
1st: I started in 3rd week in Feb. This means that I am actually just finishing my fifth month and going on to my 6th.
2nd: Maybe i did jump the gun with the whole NO Improvement thing. However, the erection quality post was the last time i have had an improvement, and as I hope you may understand, since it was a while back and the erection improvement was minimal (about an 8 to a 9), i did forget it.
3rd: While larger veins may be another positive indicator, note that I said "a bit bigger". In truth, I sometimes wonder if the veins are bigger, or if my recent involvement with my penis is causing me to see things i missed before hand.
4th: i have always had trouble cumming under an hour during intercourse. I just last long in that regard. Masturbation is pretty normal, orgasm is normal, everything else is normal. And this has not changed since I started PE. In other words I feel that this is an unrelated variable.
5th: i was not inconsistent. ~ 6 months is a lot of time even subtracting the 3 months from JP's routine (which i did follow to the t). I don't just change routine's every week, although i don't stay with them if a month show's no changes.
6th- my point still hasn't really been discussed. Even if I did do something wrong (which I wouldn't rule out, i'm only human.), you'd think that something besides a very slight eq increase and marginal vein growth would be happening the time span of 6 months. This is why I was wondering about the pump?

[kce]

correction: the original beginner routine wasn't JP, but the one off the main website:
Penis Enlargement Gym - Beginner's Guide. I followed this routine exactly for the first 3 months.

[PhibbysHammer]

May 7th you were a little more than a month and a half into it (2 week of March) ( http://www.pegym.com/forums/beginner...bie-doubt.html )
yet you say 3rd week in Feb now? nevermind, forget all that.

Let's say you've been doing it for 3 years with no gains....................PUMPS ARE DANGEROUS!!! And if you haven't shown any improvement with PE exersizes as long as you've been at it, a pump would probably hurt you , because you wouldn't DO IT RIGHT!! Sorry man, I'd love to help you but you have to want to help yourself. Fewer People Pump because it doesn't work nearly as well and its more risky.

[Zulu]

Umm what are your stats? Length, girth, etc.

The sex over an hour thing seems to be somewhat of an indicator that your penis is used to high stress loads.

[kce]

okay...assuming that i've completely screwed the timing up (once again i apologize), i still did the routine linked above for the first 3 months of this. Is there a any reason to believe that Jp's routine is better than this? (this isn't meant to be a sly comment, I'm legitimately curious.). Also, thank you for the comments about the pumps, but i can't help but feel you are being a little bit aggressive. Yes, my time stamp is inconsistent, and to be honest i don't know why i put "about a month and a half". (most likely because i was looking for an answer to the main thing i posted about, and as such, just guestimated the date.) Still, though, asumming that I wouldn't do it right simply because you've assumed that I pe'ed wrong, simply because I wrote the wrong dates is a little bit of a stretch, isn't it?

[kce]

@ ZULU
5.7 x 4.5. Although that's maximum erection.