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Old 08-26-2009   #1
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Guys: Few debate the benefits of L-Arginine on the penis. And I thought I had it figured out that taking 2-3 grams per day would be helpful. Now here's the question---Should Arginine be taken WITH a meal or on an empty stomach? I have read dozens of thoughts on this and am not sure what the best answer is. I have read that it is best to take it on an empty stomach, at least one hour before a meal and then before bed on an empty stomach. The bottle says to take it with a meal. Has anyone determined whether there is a benefit to taking Arginine and/or Lysine AFTER a PE workout??? It's tricky to know what to do when there's conflicting information.

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You're gonna have to try different combinations of things.

I took my arginine randomly throughout the day.
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For growth hormone release, on an empty stomach before bed. Thats what I read.
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I read to take Arginine on empty stomach before bed. But I also read that in order to get the growth hormone release, you have to take 6+ grams. With 500mg tablets, can taking 12 of these before bed REALLY be good for you?
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Guys: Few debate the benefits of L-Arginine on the penis. And I thought I had it figured out that taking 2-3 grams per day would be helpful. Now here's the question---Should Arginine be taken WITH a meal or on an empty stomach? I have read dozens of thoughts on this and am not sure what the best answer is. I have read that it is best to take it on an empty stomach, at least one hour before a meal and then before bed on an empty stomach. The bottle says to take it with a meal. Has anyone determined whether there is a benefit to taking Arginine and/or Lysine AFTER a PE workout??? It's tricky to know what to do when there's conflicting information.

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2 Protocols:

1.Daytime (Nitric Oxide Protocol)

The Nitric Oxide protocol is comprised of ingesting 6 grams, which is 6,000 milligrams of specifically formulated arginine, 1-3 times during the day.


Benefits following the Daytime Protocol:
  • Anti-oxidant
  • Is Rejuvenative
  • Is an Adaptogen
  • Boosts energy level
  • Helps maintain healthy blood sugar levels
  • Reduces blood pressure
  • Reduces risk of heart disease, stroke and cholesterol
  • Unclogs arteries
  • Reduces the risk of cardio-vascular heart disease
  • Improves cardio-vascular disease that is already prevalent
  • Helps in promoting healthy Sexual Performance
Directions for taking L'arginine for Daytime Use: (General Health Benefits)
Suggested Serving: Mix one serving (3/4 scoop providing 3 g L-arginine) with 4-8 oz. water (depending on individual taste). Stir to dissolve. If water is very cold, mixture will take about 1 minute to dissolve. Add 3-4 cubes of ice to activate the flavour system (if desired). One serving (1 scoop) may be taken one to three times per day. Do not take within ½ hour of other meals or drinks. Do not mix with high glycemic drinks, flavoured water, or juices.


2. Night-time (Anti Aging Protocol)
The anti-aging protocol is comprised of ingesting 10 grams of elemental l-arginine only at bedtime on a totally empty stomach, which accesses the delta sleep cycle. If you take l-arginine during the night you will get all of the benefits of Nitric Oxide and anti-aging. If you take l-arginine during the day you won’t get any anti-aging benefits. It really just depends on what people are looking for.
Benefits following the Night-time Protocol:
  • Increases Muscle Mass
  • Supports Growth
  • Stimulates Muscle Development
  • Supports Hypothalamic Response
  • Helps decrease Body Fat
  • Anti-oxidant properties
  • Helps maintain Healthy Blood Sugar Levels
  • Boosts energy levels
  • Is Rejuvenative
  • Helps in promoting Healthy Sexual Performance
  • Is an Adaptogen
  • Growth Hormone: Helps provide necessary building blocks for the body to maintain healthy growth hormone levels
  • Helps produce Nitric Oxide
  • Stimulates production of Human Anti-Aging mechanisms for those over 23 years.
Directions for taking Larginine for Night-time Use: (Anti-Aging Benefits)
Anti-aging benefits of L-arginine only occurs when 6-10 grams of specifically formulated L-arginine is ingested in a low glycemic format with no competing proteins or amino acids present.

Mix 2 servings (2 full scoops) in desired amount of water, 30 minutes prior to sleep on an empty stomach. Do not ingest food, including protein drinks, high glycemic drinks, or supplements containing any other amino acids with or within 2 hours of taking this product at bedtime. Ingesting food, amino acids, or high glycemic ingredients with or near this product is not in any way harmful, it simply will negate the benefits.

L-Arginine will not work unless you follow this protocol. If you don't go to sleep within that time frame or if there is a presence of food, the L-arginine will not cross the blood brain-barrier. The L-Arginine benefits for the night-time protocol will be wasted. You need to sleep for a minimum of 4 hours. Ideally you should sleep 8 hours for your body to repair itself.

You will still get the Cardio-vascular benefits, but not the anti-aging benefits.


Obviously you need to decide which is best for your goals.

Source of Data: Arginine Dosage
Also there is a few other sites that support these assumptions you can find several by simply googling key words.
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Phibbyshammer: Thanks for the information. I have read this before. However, I have also seen where you are to take the Arginine supplements WITH a meal. Beyond the general health benefits, we are wanting the growth hormone benefit. Trying to lock down exactly how much (which according to this is 6g) to take and with or without food is the difficult part. Thanks and I'll keep looking.
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Good info phibby !
But can you do both? take some arginine trough the day, and then 6gram in the nigth?
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Now the next question would be which brand and version of LArginine is best. Just started taking it. Did take it in the late 70's and early 80's when I was lifting on a regular basis, and it worked. But there was no set format as to when and where. This was on the recommendation made in Durk Pearson's book. Economically it looks like the powder would be the way to go, but the site's product if extremely expensive in relative terms.

My own plan is to follow the rejuvenation protocol, by slowly working myself up. Started with one gram of Twin Labs L-Arginine and L-Ornithine last evening. Woke me right up was staring at the ceiling with my eyes wide open at 1AM. Hopefully this is just temporary.

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Go for more expensive good quality brands at natural supplement stores. I dont trust supermarkets, neither should you. Supermarket = super scam
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Good info phibby !
But can you do both? take some arginine trough the day, and then 6gram in the nigth?

I Take it multiple times daily but not a whole 6 grams. (1000 mg doses)
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