[7InchStart]

Hey Guys Interested in Pumping--

I've used a vacuum pump for a long time (off and on since around 1996/97) and have done it right and, unfortunately, wrong over time so I feel very experienced with it generally as well as for safety. Fortunately never hurt myself permanently from the time I was over zealous, and have permanently increased the size of my dick with it.

I started using a 1.75" cylinder that just goes over the cock for awhile. Used it off and on over time. Went off it for awhile, then would come back to it from time to time. Then, went off of it for years. About 3 or 4 years ago, came back to it, bought a 1.75" cylinder and started using it again. Did so with regularity, but did not adhere strictly to the work out routines they provide you with in terms of how often you should do it. Stopped after awhile. Decided to go back to it about a year ago and, to my amazement, found that my dick had truly increased in size. I couldn't get the 1.75" cylinder all the way down to my base when it was hard. So that was nice, but I had already bought that cylinder thinking it was still my size (lesson: always measure so you don't waste money). Needed the 2" cylinder. Have been using that cylinder for a decent amount of time with enough regularity (more than the previous cylinder) that I now have nearly no scrotum suck at the base, and the ridge of by head is starting to flare to reach both the left and right, as well as the back part of the cylinder walls when pumping. It has definitely given me permanent gains (they stay even after not pumping for a period of a month or slightly more time if taking a break). My dick used to taper near the head and my head wasn't very full when erect. But now, my erections are full, when really aroused, point straight up and my thickness is totally even from base to tip (including head, which is now filled out and totally symmetrical with the rest of my cock when hard or flaccid). I went from a starting measurement many years ago (around 1996/97) of somewhere between 5.5 and 6" nbpel to my current nbpel of 6.75" (the last quarter inch is due to PE, not pumping). I don't know what my erect girth was back then, but I estimate that it was under 5" or so. It is now 5.5" when erect. My current bone pressed erect measurement (as of October 2009) is 7.25 inches (it was 7 with just the pumping, PE got me the jump of a quarter inch). So I've had a lot of good development over the years with a pump. Very satisfied with it.

Here's some advice about pumping...

Definitely you need a gauge and a pump system that is not one of those cheap ones that is really only used for fooling around with during sex play, etc. One of those is how I temporarily caused myself EQ injury and needed to completely stop everything, including masturbating, for six and a half weeks to fully heal, with regular heat wraps everyday - the works for proper healing...very bad! So it goes without saying, don't do that! Anyway, the size range for a 2" cylinder that just goes over the cock is between 5.1 to 5.5" in girth at your largest point. I'm very close to needing to go up to the next size cylinder (the 2.25 inch in diameter). The standard cylinders are aournd 9.5 inches long or so. Anyone who is registering a bone-pressed erect length of 8 or 8.5 inches or higher should think about buying a pump that is 12" long. Two reasons: 1) your cock will be reaching the top very quickly; 2) if your girth is "plastering" you against the sides of the cylinder, you need a larger size (you need a quarter inch more than your erect girth measurement at the largest point) in order to adequately get the proper suction and pull to stretch and thicken the cock. If you get the system that I've been using, they are anatomically built, with a slight taper near the end to reduce any unwanted swelling under the head after pumping. All this being said, I'd definitely call the company's phone number and they can walk you through your measurements and let you know exactly which cylinder you should be buying. That is another important point, buy from a company that has a dedicated call-in number for help with finding the right routine, the right cylinders, etc.

The best way to increase your cock size and EQ with a pump is to follow some basic rules: 1) always warm up before for at least 10 minutes; 2) use plenty of water based lube on your cock and balls and surrounding area; 3) shave your hair so it doesn't interfere with getting an adequate suction level; 4) only use a petroleum based lube, if needed, around the base of the cylinder if you are losing suction; 5) follow the directions they give you and don't try to push things (you'll likely be tempted to because it feels so good and looks really cool), but you can hurt yourself; and, 6) make sure, when using the cylinder that goes over just your cock, that your dick is as hard as it can possibly be before you put the pump over it and begin pumping. You want to be at maximum erection capacity. Then, put the cylinder on and begin to slowly pump up your dick. Only pump to a slighly larger level than your natural erection size and/or using your body feedback - it should not hurt at all - and pay attention to the rules they give you about the amount of pressure to use safely. You'll be able to use more pressure over time, as your dick gets used it this process. But, follow the directions (can never stress that enough) so you do not hurt yourself. I can now comfortably go slightly beyond -5 on the pressure gauge with a very full starting erection, but it has taken me time to get there. I recommend only 20 minutes per session to start (warm up, lube up, FULL hard on, pump for 10 mins, stop, massage dick well, get FULL hard-on again, pump another 10 minutes, massage; eventually you can add a third 10 minutes for a total of 30 mins, but you really won't need more than that to achieve really good results if you keep up a routine that is 3 times per week or every other day over a period of about 6 to 8 months). Make sure not to pump every day; you need the day in between to grow and solidify your gains.

I'm not 100% sure why I've been lucky and have achieved results with it, as I have not been as dedicated as I should. I think doing it right after trial and error and with decent regularity more recently over time is what allowed me to gain. It is very time consuming. I have found that PE is much more "doable" thus far in relation to amount of time it takes to do the exercises. That is why I'm here and want to go with PE instead of pumping at this point. I'll probably still pump from time to time, but switch to regular PE workouts instead. I know this is a lot to read, but I hope this is helpful?!

Happy and safe pumping if you are "into" it, but happy PE-ing even more so!

--7InchStart

[remek]

7InchStart: What a great way to start off at The PE Gym. Thank you for your thorough, informational post. It's a great read for anyone interested in pumping. If it's okay with you, we might reformat it into an article for the main site.

[Squid]

Good stuff 7!

I followed a similar time frame as you. I bought my first pump around 1997 and started with the 2inch tube. I have like you been very sporadic with it. Plus I mixed it in with my stretching and hanging. But, there was a three week period or so where I did use just the pump for the most part and did find my flaccid state being more consistently "heavy" but after stopping of course this would return back to normal more or less. But in all fairness I was not giving pumping the true amount of time it needed (3 times a week over a period of months) so now that I am on a more stricter PE regimen I am including it 2 times a week at the moment for 20 minutes.

I don't always get a full erection before placing it on as I find my erection falls in the tube after a minute or two anyway (granted it is still pumped up like crazy). But, I think there may be merit to an increase in girth with the pumps. I have a manual and an electric (pic posted in my PE TOOL KIT post) but have been using the manual primarily. I rarely use the gauge anymore as I am very familiar with the pressure limits.

But keep us posted on everything. I won't be able to attest to pumping's stand alone benefits as I will be including it with my jelq, stretching, hanging and clamping but will be great to see if you find anything out in your trial and error.

[McB52]

7inchStart...go stuff!! As you know I'm just starting to experiment with pumping and pretty close to formulating my routine. I'll share it as and when I start.

You have mentioned in your writing that your at an erect state when you pump. I can start off with an erection, but soon lose it after my first 5 minute session in the tube. For my second session, I'm not fully erect, should I be?? Should I always have/need and erection?

Again..go stuff..please continue helping us pumping newbies.

McB

[PhibbysHammer]

Thanks 7inchStart, I think you can see now why I wanted you to do this.

[Squid]

MC, it is not really possible to keep an erection in the tube unless you just hold erections for long periods of time in general. 7 thinks going in with an erection is important. I don't know if that helps anymore or not but I find with at least 70% you get in the tube better and the vacuum holds the larger erections better than trying to go in more flaccid. It is just a better way to "hold the blood" in but once in the tube, your erection level is even hard to determine as you are so pumped up.

I have a "glans tube" that just focuses on the head and you can't even get in it erect.

Good luck!

[treefern71]

I m just starting to add pumping to my routine. Thanks for the tips!

[7InchStart]

Some of you have asked about or mentioned that being fully erect did not seem totally important or that you would lose the erection quickly. I know exactly what you mean (when it comes to losing the erection quickly). That is why I mentioned that this is time consuming. In order to truly see gains with the pump for strength of erection and enlargement, you must be fully hard when you start, and, you must also do it regularly over time. So you do need some sexually stimulating material with you to assist with the process or do it with someone who can keep you aroused. Maximum erection is needed and then you pump slowly and just slightly larger than your normal erection size. You should never feel any pain. Follow the guides about the amount of pressure and watching the gauge to ensure this. You then keep one hand on the pump the entire time to keep the pressure level exactly where you pumped it up to initially (I've always used just a hand pump, not electric). If you do this, and you are sexually excited mentally, and I can only speak for myself here, you will likely have one of the most amazing feeling erections of your life. For me it is almost like being in temporary bliss. But, between needing to be stimulated, fully erect, keeping the pressure where it was, watching the clock so you don't go over 10 minutes at any given time, etc., it is time consuming. I've found PE to be much easier to do, especially if you are doing it for gaining length, as I am. Nearly all the forums that I've seen have stated that jelqing when less erect versus more erect will help with length gains. So I don't have to worry about being as sexually stimulated to get exactly what I'm after. Much easier to do. So I've switched over to PE now. --7InchStart

[McB52]

7InchStart, so you know, as a newbie to pumping, your information is helpful and valuable! I was able to practice pumping this weekend and I tried your suggestions about being "erect". As always, I started out with a really good erection the first time out. In my experimentation, I'm in the tube for no more the 5 minutes at around 5 - 7 Hg. I don't go over 5 minutes! I have also been keeping to 4 sessions. I finish my pumping session with one(1) "Ball Pumping" session. That is a new experiment, one I find enjoyable! Having the 2 1/2" tube, being well lubed my balls slide right in.

Back to my initial inquire, as mentioned above the first session was with a brand new erection. I pumped and it seemed to go away when removing it from the tube. I do 5 minutes of jelq's between session, this is when a big lose of erection occurs.

This time before starting the next session, I stimulated myself to about 70 - 80% erect and pumped. That seemed to work out well. I'll try to continue that practice, but either way, erect or not, it's working for me. Also, after my last session, I don't jelq, this leaves my unit full and look-en large. Looks awesome while Ball Pumping".

I also tried masturbating afterwards, it seemed like I would never finish. I'm going to try an incorporate that into my routine too. One last thing I discovered, I wasn't aware that after pumping up one could disconnect from the hand pump without losing pressure. This allowed me to move around freely without the tube and pump in hand, just the tube!!

McB

[McB52]

MC, it is not really possible to keep an erection in the tube unless you just hold erections for long periods of time in general. 7 thinks going in with an erection is important. I don't know if that helps anymore or not but I find with at least 70% you get in the tube better and the vacuum holds the larger erections better than trying to go in more flaccid. It is just a better way to "hold the blood" in but once in the tube, your erection level is even hard to determine as you are so pumped up.

I have a "glans tube" that just focuses on the head and you can't even get in it erect.

Squid, yes this past weekend I experimented with having an erection each time I pumped. As you mentioned, I was about 70 - 80% erect. This seemed to work for me this time. I'm thinking even semi-erect going into the tube would be helpful too.

I'd be interested in learning more about your "glans tube"; I have been looking at them lately too. The one I'm looking at is pricey, so that might have to wait a bit. Have you been doing it long? Have you noticed any gains? What is your intention with using it?

McB