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If you're doing the same routine without change, then your penis has no reason to grow. Even worse is if the routine take a long time to complete, so you're not only not making gains, but you're "wasting" time as well.
Try a complete overhaul of your training- one that's more brief but intense, and that also offers progressive increases in reps, intensity, time, etc.
You might try taking some time off as well to allow your enthusiasm to return.
Unless you're training for a competition (and even then), something is amiss if your diet and activities are causing your libido to plummet.Last edited by Big Al; 04-24-2014, 10:46 AM.Want a FREE Month of Coaching? PM or email me for details- or CLICK HERE
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First thought just cut out the focus on the bodybuilding and don't PE until your done with dieting.
Second thought are you over training with weights? Simply test, your grip strength. Without a base line this might be hard to figure out but what I do is when I'm not doing much weight training or taking time off I load up a bar with 225 lbs in a squat rack and simple lift it off the rack and see how long I can hold it. That's my base line, 2 minutes or whatever. If I think I'm heading into over training I then will try a hold again and time it. If I go from 2 minutes to 1 minute 30 I'm losing my grip strength which means I need a week off. Simple test that works. Have you noticed having a hard time gripping heavy weights?? You do any hanging ab exercises??? Is it getting hard to hang on to the bar???7 1/4 inches x 5 1/4 inches Spring 2014
8 X 5 1/2 late summer 2014
8 X 5 3/4 Feb. 2015 That took a while.
8 X 6 goal
8 X 5 7/8 May 2015, wife said stop for now.
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Originally posted by Pumped340 View PostHey Big Al,
I didn't say my routine wasn't working....I've actually had decent gains with the stretching + supraslammers. My issue is just lack of enthusiasm. It is difficult for me to get 90-100% hard because of the lack of sexual interest.
Honestly, at this point I really don't even feel like PEing...I just don't want to lose what I've gained. And as for taking time off, I spent the last 3 months in maintenance, just doing 2 sessions per week but if anything I found that to be even more annoying because I was doing work for no gain. At least when doing it 100% 4-5 days week I'm making gains. It sucks honestly, I've spent a lot of time doing PE to gain the 0.5-0.75in on my girth and last time I took off it started to be lost....can't stand the idea of stopping completely long term and having wasted all that time :\
What type of new routine would you suggest?
As for your last comment...not sure how involved with bodybuilding you are but a drop in libido is fairly common when dieting to very lean levels.
My recommendation to take some time off and come back refreshed- with perhaps a total reorganization of your training regimen still stands.
Have you looked into the "Jelq Free" routine?
I am quite familiar with bodybuilding, which is why I mentioned the "unless you're training for a competition" comment. It could be that you're dropping weight too fast. Also (and it's just my opinion), accelerated fat loss might not be a good trade off to lessened libido- though it doesn't have to be if you adjust your diet/cardio.Want a FREE Month of Coaching? PM or email me for details- or CLICK HERE
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Originally posted by Pumped340 View PostEQ isn't suffering much when not PEing. Sex with my gf hasn't been an issue other than maybe 1-2x I can think of where it was annoying only at like 75% or so but the other times it's been good.
As for the bodybuilding/dieting....well I only have about a month left anyway and I do have a timeline so there's not much I can do about that except deal with it.
For the record, I can do my routine. Just did it this morning. I'm just not enthusiastic about it and feel I "have to get through it". Getting maybe 90% hard for the supraslammers.
Originally posted by Pumped340 View PostLooking at your Jelq Free routine....that is actually almost exactly what I'm doing interestingly enough. Which I think I mentioned? I do 8x30-40sec stretches going in circles and up and down and then I do 8 supraslammers. Essentially then I am doing the jelq free routine but just for less reps and more time per rep then, right? As in instead of quick squeezes and stretches I am doing longer squeezes (supraslammers) and longer stretches. Plan was to add 1 long one per month so 9x each next month, 10x each the next month, etc...
Originally posted by Pumped340 View PostOnly real difference is I have been doing the stretches before the supraslammers instead of after. Does it matter much?
Originally posted by Pumped340 View PostThanks again for any advice.
Originally posted by Pumped340 View PostI guess I'm just starting to care less because I'm in a serious long term relationship now and kind of just don't want to lose what I've gained. More is great but not sure if worth it to me anymore. Would like to be consistent for another 3-5 months though to see where I can get. Actually, that was my plan all along....see where I can get by August then stop completely/maintain.
Edit: Oh yea as for your recommendation to take time off....as mentioned I pretty much did that the last 2-3 months. Just 1-2 maintenance sessions per week (which I dreaded even more I think because I knew it was just maintaining my size rather than gaining). How much do you think we would lose if we stopped PEing altogether forever?Want a FREE Month of Coaching? PM or email me for details- or CLICK HERE
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Originally posted by Pumped340 View PostNot to be rude by ignoring the advice so far but I'm not looking for solutions to my bodybuilding right now or for any insight on that. I've been doing it for 8 years. It is what it is. But given that you asked, no I am as strong as ever.
What I am looking for advice in is tips to get/stay hard during PE. Honestly this has always been somewhat of a problem, not just when dieting. It's not an inability to get hard in general, luckily I have never had that issue. It's just a lack of interest in what I would be using to get me hard during PE i.e. porn. I'd rather have the real thing, so just watching some fake porn isn't really doing it for me.
Like I said getting through the stretches is OK, but the supraslammers seem to be taking forever because I have to get a full hard on again each time. The erotic stories worked for a bit but now are kind of boring as well.
I would just stop PE honestly, as I've gotten a decent amount from it, but I don't want to lose all of my gains. I'm not sure how much I would lose if I stopped but I do know last time I stopped for 3 months I definitely lost some size.
Thanks7 1/4 inches x 5 1/4 inches Spring 2014
8 X 5 1/2 late summer 2014
8 X 5 3/4 Feb. 2015 That took a while.
8 X 6 goal
8 X 5 7/8 May 2015, wife said stop for now.
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Originally posted by Pumped340 View PostHm, I honestly haven't really set up specific cycles. I've just kind of done it more when I had free time and less when much busier. I have been doing it since January 2013 and that basically looked like this:
Jan-March: Consistent, ~2-3on 1off
April-Sep: Inconsistent, ~1-2on 1-4off
Sep-Nov: None, noticed loss of gains so I picked it back up
Nov-Jan: Consistent, ~2-3on 1off
Jan-April: maintenance, 1on 3-4off
Last month has been 2on 1off again for the most part
Originally posted by Pumped340 View PostInteresting. I guess I saw the stretching as a way to warm up my unit before the intense supraslammers. Maybe this is part of my issue getting completely hard for the SS's? Part of it was that since the SS's were so intense I just wanted to be done when I finished them lol but if doing them first will make things easier I'll definitely do that. I only added in the stretches in November or so when I read about the tunica/ligament limiting size or something like that (I forget the details but something about limiting girth gains if you don't stretch enough). My main goal is definitely girth.
Originally posted by Pumped340 View PostHm....would you consider that no jelqing routine less intense? I know the reps are brief but it mentions 100's to 1000's of reps?
Originally posted by Pumped340 View PostI could also see it being even harder for me to complete the squeezes because whereas with the SS's I just have to get hard long enough to start it I would have to be hard during the entire 10+min of the squeezes correct?
Originally posted by Pumped340 View PostWell, my maintenance was basically 4-5 of those stretches + 4-5 supraslammers once or twice per week. Did actually regress just a bit on girth during the maintenance period unfortunately length seemed to go up 1/8in though interestingly.
The sex hasn't been any more frequent. I actually started PE right when I started dating my current gf a year or so ago. So it was partly for her, even though I know it doesn't matter for her anyway as I'm the 2nd biggest she's had (first biggest was a guy who was 9in, they had sex once for a minute and she said it really hurt). I'm 6.75 NBPEL 7.5 BPEL, MEG 5.125 or so. Would like that girth to be 5.5 but yea...Want a FREE Month of Coaching? PM or email me for details- or CLICK HERE
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