Not targeting the BC Muscle, my key into fixing this curse

[CrocodileLion]

Dear forums members,

I have found out due many factors that the key into solving my PE is by making my BC muscle not tense and make it relaxed.
Although I have been doing RKs for a month now it feels like I am excluding (atleast part of) the BC muscle.
IC and PC muscle are doing great.

When doing a regulair kegel I feel a lot more of the BC muscle then when stretching it by RKs. Feels like I am only doing 50% of the BC muscle the part connected the closed to the PC muscle when RKing and when Kegeling it feels like I am contracting the whole BC muscle.
I can feel that the other part of my BC muscle is still pretty tensed. When Rking It feels like I am not targeting my complete BC muscle.

Anyone has some tricks that could give me some guarantee I am targeting my whole BC muscle. Maybe I am not targeting my BC muscle At all? Piss does not always flow out faster when Rking doing pying, mostly not last time.

This is my key into solving PE I have become very sure of due some factors.

Could anyone give me a good ginving self confidence answer?

Yes I have seen the great 'Confusion on Rever Kegels thread'

[Pegasus]

Like kegels ,reverse kegels have a front and a back version . While the most common weakness is reverse kegel relative to kegel , other issues can occur . Most guys when they start kegels do them as a unit and likewise for reverse kegels, both front and back are done concurrently. This is ok for most basic use for most people. However some guys have a weakness in a particular area and it may not recieve much benifit when an attempt is made to do a unit contraction. In this case you must work towards increaseing skill, so that isolated training can be done.

[CrocodileLion]

Could I be having problems with targeting it because I overtrained it? I remember 2 weeks ago I believe I was more targeting it and now of the sudden way less or not. Anyway any tips&tricks on making it easier to target?

[imac]

rko had a similar question that he posted on my thread here's my reply.

You're never going to feel a front RK to the same degree as you feel a front kegel because one's a strength exercise and the others a stretch.
Reverse kegels require skill not strength, there more subtle that kegels. Particularly front RK because you're trying to isolate a smaller muscle.
Something else to note is that when doing front kegels or front reverse kegels, no matter how good you get a isolation you're going to affect the front part of the PC muscle because it's connected to the BC muscle. This is really more true for regular front kegels because you're contracting the muscle or hard front reverse kegels which there's no real need for anyway.

When it comes to reverse kegels the key is to start light and pay attention to the subtle muscle movements and while your awareness of your body grows you'll be able to feel and control the subtle movements better and then you can increase the pressure you apply to each stretch in a controlled way.

Don't listen to this advise to get all you're muscles involved including your abs because it's all bullshit. It's completely counter productive and totally unnecessary. I'll say it again reverse kegels are a stretching exercise.
If you were stretching any other muscle in your body would you engage other muscles in your body to force the stretch? No you wouldn't because you'd be likely to hurt yourself.

To put it in context for you.
When you take a piss you do a front reverse kegel. When you push the piss out a bit faster you're doing a slighting firmer front reverse kegel so if you can take a piss then you're already capable of doing a front reverse kegel it's all a matter of transferring that isolation and control over to when you're not taking a piss.
What you don't do when taking a piss is engage all your muscles and force it out as hard as you can straining yourself. It would be pointless, unnecessary and potentially dangerous.

What to do is just keep the area around your penis as relaxed as possible and use light pressure to start, just like you would if taking a piss(not pissing fast just normally) and pay attention to your body and how it feels in that area and as you become familiar with it you'll be able to apply more controlled pressure to it. If you struggle to apply more pressure use your diaphragm to push out not your abs.

[CrocodileLion]

Thanks a lot that answer really made some things clear for me. Only i can't RK without the abs. Is it normal on the start you include abs? When not including abs it feels impossible to RK. I use my abs lightly and setting pressure on it.

Still somewhere I think RK made my muscles even tenser...

[imac]

A lot of people use there abs to begin with until they can do it without. I find it much better to use your diaphragm to push if you need to apply more pressure to the RK.

RK's shouldn't be making your pelvic floor more tense. RK's are supposed to make your muscles more relaxed and flexible. How are you doing them? and what routine are you following?

[Pegasus]

Reverse kegels can be overtrained.

[CrocodileLion]

Oke good to know cause I am already using my abs less to RK then I used to.

At the moment I quitted them for a week since I noticed when with my Girlfriend everything gets way tenser. I contract even on touch.
I was doing like 150 RKs a day. And mostly not being relaxed at that point. I was just forcing a push out and sometimes making some urine come out. Thinking I was doing the RK right.

Now I am lying in my bed and using diaphragm breathing and while breathing out I can RK and target the BC muscle again more than before but still things are not going great.

[JamesMonroe]

I would love to hear from a guy that had "prem ejac" and became "delayed ejaculation" because of reverse kegels. Please let me know of one exists. I would love to talk to him. Haha. :0)
Know of any Pegasus?

[JamesMonroe]

And actually, it should be easier to reverse kegel while you breath OUT. Try and you should see that.