[Pegasus]

Phallic how long did this breathing thing take to learn. Most people can become multi orgasmic in a few months if they put their mind to it.

[pe_ZEN]

Really its about moving energy away by moving attention to other parts of the body as well. For example, if you are focusing on how good your penis feels, it will lead to ejaculation. If you say to yourself "it feels good all over my body" then you are sending that energy all over your body as well. Feel how good your hands feel, how tingly! Feel your feet. Do this and continue to stimulate you get the point, and it WILL lead to MMO.

It gets easier with more edging practice and kegel control. Doing this regularly along with ballooning can also lead to gains as well as enhanced EQ, flaccid hang, and overall ability to achieve erections! It trains your body to "accept pleasure" rather than quickly releasing it like a horny teenager

[pe_ZEN]

and believe me I've had MANY retrograde ejac's - which leads to 'temporary' loss of erection. But oh well try and try again

[Pegasus]

Actually zen, you can have multi dry orgasms while focusing on your dick and you do not have to breath through the soles of your feet to do it.

[pe_ZEN]

I believe in the motto: "where attention goes, energy flows" hence I'll put attention on cycling up to the 3rd eye and then down the governing channel, then repeat

[pe_ZEN]

A lot of people get confused about "Dry Orgasms"

To me this means 'internal body orgasm' without the need to ejac, but some people think it means 'retrograde ejaculation', you know forcing the kegel during PONR and still feeling the pulses but the sperm goes into the bladder instead...

[WiseGuy]

When you masterbate, don't do it with the intention of bringing yourself pleasure. Your hand should be moving and your mind should be off your dick. Same when you are having sex. Don't think about your dick and what you are feeling. Completely detach yourself.

^^ Not a great way to live life!

[Pegasus]

A retrograde ejaculation is NOT a dry orgasm.

Pe zen I have said the same thig many times in several ways.
If your technique is correct ,you can concentrate on your dick and have repeated dry orgasms.
I believe the problem some people are having with kegals are due to poor technique.
Fix the technique fix the problem.
Wise guy is right, I want to be there feeling all the pleasure, having a damn good time, not going omm through my 3rd eye.

Look anyone that can get mmo(male multi orgasm), through your 3rd eye governing channel ,more power to you. However for most people, this is a way unnecessary diversion if your goal is mmo. It will either take far longer than needed ,or you will give up after months or years of fustration. If you are into the mystic thing fine, I am not saying it has no value, it is just not necessary for mmo.

[pe_ZEN]

well, ok - but if you know what is happening to your body at the same time, then so much the better. Just "concentrating on your dick" is uninformative for those of us who are more sensitive to stimulation, and therefore require additional supplementory means to divert energy.

This is OLD wisdom - 1000's of years of Taoist master of sexual energy can't be wrong. Check out Mantak Chia and tell me he is not a master of sexual kung fu

[phallic1]

I remember using the mental image of dead road kill dogs and funerals to try and stop from cumming to quickly when I was young...wtf was wrong with me, gawd.

Now I have the opposite problem...I'm lucky if I cum during sex.

It's all a head game.