[Mussell]

What's up PEGYM, I'm new as you can see but not new to PE. Basically the first time I heard about PE (4 yrs-ago) it was from a friend that read some e-book and I read it and was interested in Multiple O's. I had no problem at all whatsoever the PE or ED nothing like that I just wanted to improve so I started doing kegel while using the bathroom starting and stopping then I started mixing it with the hold and breathing and trying what I believe was edging this went on about 2months weeks like every other day full strength then I started noticing during sex things were off and stopped . FOr example before kegels I was in control and relax everything was running like a well oiled machine I could actually feel the when the PONR was coming when it got that far(most of time I didnt even get finish) and was in control the whole time also making my penis jumped only my I wanted to. Fast Forward to now Im not excatly sure I'm having PE problem but I finish way to fast then I use to and I believe its from expermenting with kegels. What I started noticing and still do was shorter time,tense and my breathing felt like Im unconsciously trying hold my breath,my penis would be jump a little like without my control and tighting real hard up quick and thats when its all over sort of like PONR now as soon as it tightens. I read on the interent and here some post about kegels having a reverse affect for people and I read also there a reverse kegel and I had no idea. My question now is if I do reverse kegels will I get back on track......

[PhibbysHammer]

I'm pretty confident that kegels have absolutely nothing to do with any problem you're having during sex. The fact that it took over 2 months to see a problem supports that. Kegels are almost as common as breathing to humans. Just as you can do breathing exersizes to expand your lungs, you can do kegel exersizes to strengthen your PC muscle. Stopping flow of urine a bit here and there is no big deal but allowing pressure to build while stopping could cause irritation to the urethra. Since your problem has "Suddenly" appeared for no apparent reason obviously something else has changed. A new sex partner or decrease/increase in sexual activity for instance could cause premature ejaculation. Mental stress and anxiety are also contributors, but I'd bet the farm its not from doing kegels.

[Pegasus]

Hmm phibby I would have said that not long ago, however I have a theory.

Kegals strengthen the pc and bc muscles so that they can be used to stop ejaculation and produce dry orgasms. Now I often do this, however if at times I want to hasten ejaculation ,I can use these strengthened muscles to do that too. I have seen a couple of posts similar to Mussell's, they have in common strength without full control. They might be mistiming contractions, or just basically have little muscle control. So in effect the increased strength works against them.

Your answer might lie in increased muscle control, I would also recomend edging.

[Mussell]

Thanks Phibby and Pegasus.

[Pegasus]

Do anybody want to comment on, or add to my theory?

[JonPop]

Nope, your theory works for me, unless someone wants to debate it.

[Pegasus]

Thanks JP, this might have relevance to other members and future members.