[PESG]

I wish you all the luck in the World ReetB! You’re starting to enter a world where I have very little experience in (hanging) but I’ll certainly try to stay informed while you embark on this new journey. From what I know about hanging, it is a slow process that requires a lot of dedication. But, from what we have seen out of you already, you are literally the KING of being dedicated and steadfast. I still link newbies to your progress log.

[LookAlive]

Ah it's really good to see you getting your confidence back and getting back on track with your PE ReetB!

I remember a thread you made about not knowing what to do with your PE.

Good luck man! I hope you see some awesome gains (also make sure you comment on the effectiveness of the BIB hanger, I'm looking into getting one!)

LookAlive

[ReetB]

Thanks guys. Well my PE journey so far has been an interesting one but now I've found my feet again, I'll be looking to make some gains.

For any newbies reading this, PE works! However it does take a lot of time so just be patient. I think it's quite easy to get a bit obsessed with increasing your size, so you jelq and stretch away without really taking in the progress that you make over time. A month of solid jelqing can feel like a life time and then you check your measurements and you may not have made any progress. It's at times like these that you look at PE and say "pah, it doesn't work", but that is not the case. I've been going since February this year, starting of with a BPEL of 5.8 inches and I'm now at 6.6 inches. That includes a months break where I got married and went away on honeymoon!

So obviously it's working but the question is, why change it? Well with help from Bib over at Bib hangers (the guy is a legend btw), following three of his simple tests, it looks very likely that I will gain from hanging. There isn't a large amount of information about hanging here, so let me explain the fundamental differences between this method of PE and jelqing.

As we know jelqing works by forcing blood through the penile shaft and expanding the spongy bodies known as the corpora cavernosa and the corpus spongiosum. It is also said that jelqing can lengthen the suspensory ligament of the penis. I'm convinced that it can but I do wonder how effectively it can stress the ligs or tunica. This is where hanging comes in.

Basically with hanging, you are are trying to stretch and deform the tough collagenous tissues of the penis. These are the longitudinal and lateral fibers of the tunica and the various ligament structures. The aim of hanging is to achieve controlled damage of these tough tissues and this is where gains can be made. From speaking with Bib, it appears that it's quite important that you perform his three tests to establish where the best gains can be made. These tests basically work out the condition of your ligs. If they are tight and high, then you will get better benefit from hanging BTC (behind the cheeks) which will pull out these ligs. If you're ligs are fairly well stretched out, then a different hanging angle to attack the tunica may be in order.

A very important aspect of hanging is rest time and I do think that this applies to manual stretching as well. Basically when you hang, you stretch and deform the tough tissues and ligs. When these tissues heal, they become stronger than before, much like the area of a bone break. From reading many threads and progress logs from people who hang, it seems that the people who make the best gains ensure that they are hanging every day. Why every day you might ask? Well it's quite simple, because these tissues heal and become stronger, it makes it more difficult to break them down again on the next hanging session. Therefore it is better to continue deforming these tough tissues, while they are still weak before they have a chance to lay down new collagenous tissue. I have a feeling that if you are just manual stretching, it's important to stretch every day and not let your ligs heal. Healed ligs, heal stronger, which makes them even tougher next time to stretch and gain. Please note, this is just a theory of mine and where it applies to hanging, it may not apply to manual stretching, but in theory it makes sense.

Another important aspect of hanging is when you are not hanging, you should try and leave your penis in an extended state. Any healing that does occur between hanging sessions is better to occur when you are extended (I'm thinking simple ADS here) as I believe this makes it easier to continue to deform the tissues whilst they are still weak which makes them easier to further deform.

So, what does this all boil down to for me? Well, I'm simply doing light ADS at the moment to leave my penis in an extended state. I am not going to stretch or jelq now until my hanger arrives as I want to give my penis a rest so that I can really go for my ligs when I begin. Ironically, it's the conditioned ligs that I believe are harder to break down as they are used to certain stress levels. From doing my PE, I am fairly well conditioned, so I think this little bit of rest time will aid me in my hanging journey.

I'll post up my routine soon but I'm really excited about following a new PE route. From the tests performed, I could potentially gain up to another 3 inches with fully stretched ligs. Would I want 3 inches? Well I'd take it if you offered it too me, but I think if I hit any where near 2 inches, I'll probably stop hanging and go back to working on my manual exercises again. We'll see though

[ReetB]

I've had 4 days off from PE while I wait for my hanger to arrive, but I thought, "aww heck, why not do some ADS. So...

Tuesday 17th November.

8 hours ADS.

I might do some jelqing tonight but will probably hold off until I can start hanging. I want to give my body a good rest before I embark on my new PE journey

I'm hoping to start hanging at some point this week!

[ReetB]

Well my hanger turned up today! Not bad considering it was sent on Monday from Texas! Mind you, I did pay extra to have it sent by courier.

Anyway, I'm going to have a fiddle around with it tonight and get it set up. Hopefully I'll get my first hanging session in tomorrow if all things go well. I did a bit of shopping last night and bought some weight plates, some rope and some duct tape. I'm sure the girl behind the counter thought I was a murderer or something haha!

I'm really excited now as I'm convinced that I'm going to make some decent progress! I keep asking myself "what size would I like" and to be honest, I can't really say. If I can gain between 1 and 1.5 inches from hanging then I think I'll feel very happy with those gains. That would take my BPEL up to between 8 and 8.5 inches.

Girth is slightly more of a concern and I don't really want to gain too much if I can help it. Sex with my wife at the moment can be a little tight at times and I don't want to make it more uncomfortable for her. However an increase in length would be desirable as it will mean that some of the angles / positions will be made a lot easier and arguably more fun!

So the hanging journey begins. My next update will hopefully be after my first hanging session so I'll let you know how it goes!

RB.

[oxjohnxo]

great job so far

[ReetB]

Thanks John

Well I thought I'd put up my proposed routine and some notes that I've made. I'm quite a methodical person, which does help me get in my mind what I need to do to achieve my goals!

So my proposed routine is:

1.) 5 minutes warm up with a microwavable rice sock (it might seem like a short warm up but I'll be heating throughout my first set).

2.) 1.25kg for 20 minutes (Set 1) with heat BTC (a light weight to start with).

3.) Rest 10 minutes to restore circulation.

4.) 1.25kg for 20 minutes (Set 2) BTC.

5.)10 minutes of light jelqing to encourage fresh blood and circulation to aid healing.

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Notes:

- I will do between 2-3 sets a day.

- I should be reaching fatigue at the end of the first set / early second set.

- I will increase my weight slightly so that I always fatigue at the end of the first set / early second.

- Once fatigued, I will note this weight as my "current max weight".

- I will drop the weight down for the remaining sets so that it remains comfortable.

- I will only increase my max weight once I do not fatigue within the first two sets.

[ReetB]

OK, well I'm a couple days into my hanging routine and it's been an interesting journey so far. A few points to any potential "budding" hangers:

- Wrapping takes some time to learn. I'm getting better at it but it certainly requires patience.
- There are multiple adjustments that you can make to the hanger, so it takes a bit of time to get it set up properly, however once it's right, it works really well!
- Heat is even more important here! Not only for getting your ligs nice and loose but also to aid healing.

So I've had three days so far of hanging and it's going well.

Wednesday 18th November:
- Set 1: 20 minutes at 1.25kg BTC
- Set 2: 20 minutes at 2.5kg BTC (I increased the weight as the previous weight was way too light)
- 15 minutes light jelqing

Thursday 19th November:
- 3 x 20 minute sets @ 2.5kg applying heat for the first and last set.
- 15 minutes light jelqing.

Friday 20th November:
- Morning session - 1 x 20 minute set @ 2.5kg
- 10 minutes light jelqing
- ADS for 3 hours.
- Evening session - 3 x 20 min sets @ 2.5kg
- 15 minutes light jelqing.

So far I feel a little sore at the base of my ligs but that is to be expected. Hanging isn't for the feint hearted but it isn't as hard as everyone might make out. It's certainly something that I'd only recommend if you've been doing PE for a while as I do consider myself conditioned and even this is testing me. Put it this way, I could do a lot of manual stretches with decent intensity levels and feel very little the next day. Hanging really does work you harder but if you're sensible, pace yourself and take your time, then I think it's a very rewarding way to make gains!

[ReetB]

Saturday 21st November:
- 1 x 20 min set at 2.5kg

I felt a little sore so took it easy and only did one set.

Sunday 22nd November:
- 2 x 20 min sets at 2.5kg
- 10 minutes light jelqing

Felt better today and the soreness has pretty much gone away. I still only did 2 sets though as I didn't want to over-do it.

[ReetB]

Monday 23rd November
- 3 x 20 mins @ 2.5kg - I didn't reach any fatigue tonight at all!
- 10 minutes light jelqing

I might increase my weights slightly soon as it's starting to feel quite comfortable.