[HotRod]

Thanks, KP. I think I can count the EL as a PI.



My workout was probably a little more intense today because I had a higher state of arousal than I usually do. There's definitely a sweet spot for good PE sessions. Usually I work to full erection at beginning of a set, let the erection fall to just under 90 degrees and after a couple strokes it's right about where it should be: pliable, yet fully engorged during the jelq grip..

Tomorrow's another rest day again already.

[HotRod]

Practice is starting to pay off.

2 of 13 weeks now complete. I lightened up my jelq grip a little today. Here's how my routine goes now:


A: Heat and stretching

B (5 steps / 3 times in sequence):
1. Jelq 50
2. V-Jelq 30
3. Work to full erection
4. perineum jelq 4
5. erect kegels (to failure)

C: Heat and a couple gentle streches

I'm counting jelqs to a 5 count. The whole routine requires about 50 minutes.

I've decided not to masturbate after a session like I have been. I think a long masturbation session after PE just adds stress on the organ which could make it difficult to monitor my progress. I'm just sticking with the program at this point. Still feels good. I'm still noticing that tiny little hard vein near the corona. I first noticed it about a year ago. I believe it's from long intense masturbation sessions. It gets better and then it sort of comes back. No pain at all associated with it. I'm going to reduce duration of masturbation sessions and use my Fleshlight when I can to reduce friction.

[HotRod]

Wow. Well, I had an interesting experience. Almost 2 hours after PE tonight, I got really horny, put some lotion in my hand, and well, you know what I did.

Erection Quality says it all. I'm making this note now because I've never noticed this before. I had a rager, pointing about 80 degrees and what was especially interesting is that the top of the shaft of the penis was noticably harder. The sides and the bottom (scrotum side) were a little spongy, but along the top of the cavernous bodies there was a definite harder area.

What I'm trying to say is that there appears to be some uneven change taking place and it resulted in a much stiffer erection. This was about 2 hours after PE. I think this means something. I'm going to pay attention to this and test my erections at different times after PE.

I'm going to do some more journalling tonight. Stand by.......

[HotRod]

I’m attributing the post-PE EQ this evening to certain factors. I’m just going to meditate on some topics.

EL Consistency – This has got to be one of the most important aspects of good PE practice and I think it’s difficult to master. Typically when the EL falls and I’m not swishing blood anymore, I’ll think of a sexy scene, or something twisted to get aroused. Sometimes I’ve used porn. The problem is that this method of stimulation is a distraction and sometimes the image hangs in my mind longer than I need it to. It’s hard to just turn an image off instantly. So the arousal goes too far, and then I have to wait for the EL to fall. It’s a loss of time and concentrated exercise.

I’m getting better at this and I think with practice this will just sort of fall into place, but it needs to be a goal at this point. Normally during PE my erections range from 100% down to nearly flaccid. Sometimes it’s hard to tell where my EL is while I’m in the middle of some good jelq reps. I’ll stop and sometimes find that I’m almost completely limp or even a little too hard.

I think there’s a lot more to this experience of getting a feel for EL consistency and learn to control EL almost on demand. It’s important. With consistent EL each jelq rep can be a good one.

Metered strokes – I’m going to start experimenting with a metronome. I’ve decided that 5 seconds is the ideal stroke duration for me, for now. I’m good at counting them out and I can keep a beat, but a metronome will create a demand for accuracy and focus. I’ll miss a few beats, but with a setting of 60 bpm it will be easy to fall right back into step. The regularity of metered strokes could help develop EL consistency.

Proper grip – I find the v-jelq grip to be very intuitive. The hand just sort of closes and that’s about all there is to the grip. There’s no squeezing really.

My standard wet jelq is an overhand grip (pinky toward the glans). I make a fairly tight OK sign with the skin between the thumb and first knuckle of the index finger gliding along the top of the shaft. How much pressure to use has always been a little tricky for me. I think I tend to over do it a little, but I’m always conscious to ease way off when I’m more fully erect. I use a higher pressure when my EL is low. So an inconsistent grip can actually be corrected by developing good EL consistency. All these things work together.

I’m going to play with principles like this because time is a scarce resource and if there are ways to condense a full routine without applying harmful levels of force while maximizing PE effectiveness I want to try to discover them.

I feel like I'm becoming a PE geek, but without really mastering this practice, I think PE could get dull again, and I'd never be able to have any confidence that I was being effective. So I'll post like this from time to time. I know I'm rambling now, goodnight.


Next time: The EL Sweet Spot

[jayhawk11]

Good stuff HotRod, you probably have the most detailed log in this forum. I'm glad to see you back in action too, keep up the great work.

Jayhawk

[HotRod]

Hey, thanks, jayhawk11.


Good session today. I used a metronome and it was very helpful in regulating my strokes. I also paid close attention to EL consistency, and had good results.

Today my penis had a sort of very very very subtle tingling feeling after the work out. I've had this in the past and I think generally it's a sign of having got a thorough workout. Not tired and not prickly or numb, just kind of pleasantly tingly.

I'll be back Sunday.

2 Hours Later: Intense erection - felt almost like it was growing in my hands. I was actually squeezing it a little because I was afraid it would burst, but there was no pain. I'm thinking that these post-workout erections are an interesting class of positive indicator.

I'll be studying penile anatomy this weekend.

[RockofFox]

Good stuff Hotrod, I like the way your taking a very precise measured approach. Considering all the variables and thinking about your results. Very meaningful analysis like you do can only help everyone else.

[HotRod]

Thanks, RockofFox.

I'm finding that it has helped my workouts a lot these past couple times to use the metronome and to pay close attention to the erection level. It's really not an erection at all when it's in the zone. I'm still not sure how to describe it because I'm still working on maintaining it throughout my workout.

I'm running 50 minutes almost on the dot with my sessions. I'm going to try to bring this down to 45 or maybe 40 minutes if I can.

I'm also working on a personal philosophy of PE which I'll post more about another time. Right now I'm going to get some fresh air and try to get a run in.

[PESG]

Originally Posted by HotRod

I’m attributing the post-PE EQ this evening to certain factors. I’m just going to meditate on some topics.

EL Consistency – This has got to be one of the most important aspects of good PE practice and I think it’s difficult to master. Typically when the EL falls and I’m not swishing blood anymore, I’ll think of a sexy scene, or something twisted to get aroused. Sometimes I’ve used porn. The problem is that this method of stimulation is a distraction and sometimes the image hangs in my mind longer than I need it to. It’s hard to just turn an image off instantly. So the arousal goes too far, and then I have to wait for the EL to fall. It’s a loss of time and concentrated exercise.

I’m getting better at this and I think with practice this will just sort of fall into place, but it needs to be a goal at this point. Normally during PE my erections range from 100% down to nearly flaccid. Sometimes it’s hard to tell where my EL is while I’m in the middle of some good jelq reps. I’ll stop and sometimes find that I’m almost completely limp or even a little too hard.

I think there’s a lot more to this experience of getting a feel for EL consistency and learn to control EL almost on demand. It’s important. With consistent EL each jelq rep can be a good one.

Metered strokes – I’m going to start experimenting with a metronome. I’ve decided that 5 seconds is the ideal stroke duration for me, for now. I’m good at counting them out and I can keep a beat, but a metronome will create a demand for accuracy and focus. I’ll miss a few beats, but with a setting of 60 bpm it will be easy to fall right back into step. The regularity of metered strokes could help develop EL consistency.

Proper grip – I find the v-jelq grip to be very intuitive. The hand just sort of closes and that’s about all there is to the grip. There’s no squeezing really.

My standard wet jelq is an overhand grip (pinky toward the glans). I make a fairly tight OK sign with the skin between the thumb and first knuckle of the index finger gliding along the top of the shaft. How much pressure to use has always been a little tricky for me. I think I tend to over do it a little, but I’m always conscious to ease way off when I’m more fully erect. I use a higher pressure when my EL is low. So an inconsistent grip can actually be corrected by developing good EL consistency. All these things work together.

I’m going to play with principles like this because time is a scarce resource and if there are ways to condense a full routine without applying harmful levels of force while maximizing PE effectiveness I want to try to discover them.

I feel like I'm becoming a PE geek, but without really mastering this practice, I think PE could get dull again, and I'd never be able to have any confidence that I was being effective. So I'll post like this from time to time. I know I'm rambling now, goodnight.


Next time: The EL Sweet Spot

This was a great post Hotrod. +1 rep

[HotRod]

Tomorrow's another break day. Thursday will bring me up to three weeks. It seems like I've been doing this longer than that now. That might be a good sign. It's becoming habit.

Massive EQ at end of workout today. I've noticed this the past few days: my full erections when I'm standing on the floor point almost straight up and it's so hard I can barely budge the thing when I'm doing erect kegels. I was like, woohoo! something's happening here! So I played with it for a while. Pretty amazing. Those were my real thoughts.

It's interesting that my color seems to have changed too. It's more rosey and the glans seems pinker than usual. There seems to be slightly more extra skin around the frenulum and where my foreskin normally would be. I find this interesting. These changes could have to do with all the moisture because I rinse off, dab, and apply some non-acidic lotion after my workouts. I never masturbate dry anymore. I'll use spit if I have to. Fuck it. I was taking a punishment with dry masturbation, man. Bad lazy habit to get into. I think it's what caused my lympohcele or whatever the fuck it is. It's not really changing and it might be getting smaller, but I still notice it during masturbation. I never feel it during PE, so I think that's a good sign. Maybe my cock will just grow around it and cover it.

By the way, don't feel compelled to read these long posts. I'm happy about PE and how it's helping me structure my life right now. If I'm going into this thing for the long term (as long as necessary to reach my modest goals), this is going to have become engrained in my pattern of behavior just like a bad habit.

Resting: I was thinking more precisely about this. I end every session with heat and a few gentle stretches. The next session begins in about 23 hours. I'm pretty consistent with times. I just make sure I get it done. 1st thing absolutely when I get home from work. Nothing else stands in the way. The phone is off.

23 hours of rest on workout days. That's actually a long rest period if you think about it. I have almost no other penile activity on workout days unless I blowmywad sometime after PE.

So 23 hours in which about 7 are spent in sleep. The other 16, I'll be in the shower, dressing, undressing, peeing, sitting on my ass in front of a computer, running, walking, doing kegels, driving a 5-speed, and an assortment of other diverse activities. My penis is subject to a variety of elements, but mostly I'm warm and things stay pretty loose down there. I'm hoping all of this is good.

When I take a rest day, that's a total of 47 hours rest until my next workout. My next PE session is Wednesday about 5 PM. I'm sitting here with sensations in my penis that tell me I've had some recent activity. Almost a tingly feeling. Sort of like a MEMORY of an intense sensation. I'm looking at this next rest period as an opportunity to let my penis lose its memory. I wouldn't want to work out again with this sensation still in my unit.

I think every rest period should be as close as possible to feeling this loss of penis memory from the last workout. Usually I still do feel just a little bit extra awareness in my penis on the second workout day. I'm thinking it's a good idea to keep those sensations minimal.

I'm really looking forward now to this next day off. I'm planning to have zero penile activity until my next workout. I want to get better at monitoring what's happening in my body during my rest periods.

Right now this would be an acute post-PE phase where I'm really still aware that I had a good workout tonight and even saw some great positive indicators. It was good.

One last note: Heat level. I'm sort of at the mercy of my hot tap in terms of temperature. Sometimes I think it's been a little too hot. My penis turns almost to instant putty with higher heat. I noticed tonight that a lower more tolerable heat will get the same result. I'm blending stretching and heat as my warmup. I heat, stretch, heat, stretch, stretch, stretch, heat, stretch, heat, stretch - something like that. Most of my stretches are just straight out and up. I'm focusing exclusively on watching the tissue of the shaft stretch. I stretch very gently and never hold the stretch at maxiumum. There's always just a little bit of slack in the stretch. I wouldn't stretch any of my other muscles withuot leaving a little breathing room. I also just want to be very careful about stressing ligaments. My goal at the end of warmup is to have taffy penis. From there I immediately start with some flaccid jelqs and work up to the jelq sweet spot within about 10 or 15 strokes.

Alright guys, I'm all written out.