quik4life's Journey to Big Dick Island

[babbis]

Just wanted to chime in and wish you good luck with your pumping quik!

Also, be careful so you do not fall into overtraining like remek is warning you against. You did that for 2 years remember? Then you drastically reduced your work volume and upped rest days and got your very first cemented gains.

I know it can be very frustrating to not get gains but going back to more workouts does not sound like a good idea to me based on the gains you realised after your first decon.

Anyway, come by the club sometime!

Bjorn

[quik4life]

Originally Posted by babbis

Just wanted to chime in and wish you good luck with your pumping quik!

Also, be careful so you do not fall into overtraining like remek is warning you against. You did that for 2 years remember? Then you drastically reduced your work volume and upped rest days and got your very first cemented gains.

I know it can be very frustrating to not get gains but going back to more workouts does not sound like a good idea to me based on the gains you realised after your first decon.

Anyway, come by the club sometime!

Bjorn

Hey babbis.

I'm going to be changing my routine again. I think you (and remek) are right about making sure that I don't overtrain. Only problem is, with girth, it almost seems that you HAVE to overtrain to get any girth gains. Just look at all the PE'ers that have had good girth gains.

Right now, I'm waiting on my Air Clamp to be delivered. I'm going to change my routine once I get it (not by much though). Basically, I plan to just PE 4 days a week (Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday and Sunday). What I want to do is make a routine that is revolved around pumping, jelqing and clamping. I'll probably do something like this:

5 min warm up
Stretch penis in all directions until I get semi erect
After erect, clamp for 5 mins
Pump for 5 mins (low hg - somewhere around 2-4hgs)
30 wet jelqs
Clamp for 5 mins
Pump for 5 mins
ADS

Now, for the ADS, I'm thinking of doing something along what xenolith suggested to me. I'm basically just ADSing with a vacuum hanger, but with a cockring at the base of my penis that will keep my penis nice and plump. After hanging and ADSing and getting a bit of gains, I've realized the importance of the ADS and it's purpose in cementing gains. So, girth should be no different. Right now, I've been sort of ADSing; just using a cockring around my cock and balls to help keep things pump. I'm basically going to do the same thing I am now, but just throw in the vacuum stretcher (at a very, very light tension).

Any opinions/suggestions/comments are appreciated...

[remek]

quick,

Good choice You have to use your past as your new guidance:
You've gained with IPR.
You have gained with everything else.

Not saying that you should drop all and switch back to IPR. You also didn't gain with IPR the second time (it appears your penis adapted). . . but one thing is clear: your penis grows with rest!

My advice: keep switching it up (every two weeks or so) and measure often. Find out what works best for you.

[hg5]

Quik,

Why did you stop hanging?

[quik4life]

Originally Posted by hg5

Quik,

Why did you stop hanging?

The gains stopped.

Most experienced people will say that once you stop growing, you only have two options: 1) rest (decon) or 2) switch up your routine. I chose the latter.

I finally received my Air Clamp in the mail and plan on incorporating it into my routine. I've also become quite intrigued by Horse440s. Once I get a solid routine down for about a month and measure some gains, I'll report back.

[remek]

Quick,

Do measure often It is the only way--combined with your PI's--to know if it's working.

Good luck!

[quik4life]

Well. I did it again. I overtrained.

It was a combination of things. I keep getting discouraged that I'm not getting the proper amount of expansion during my clamping/pumping sessions. Then, on days that I do get good expansion, I overdo it and overtrain my unit.

All in all, these past few weeks aren't a total wash. I basically learned that clamping isn't for me. What I DID learn is that edging with a cock (jelly) ring is AMAZING! I mean, not only is it more comfortable, but I got great expansion. And by "great" expansion, I mean 0.25 to 0.35 inches. That might not sound much, but for me, it's a lot. Plus, I know that the expansion is true expansion and not just lymph build up.

So what is quik4life going to do?

I've been thinking of a lot of routines. I've tried a lot of routines. I've tried jelqing, stretching, hanging, clamping, pumping, bends, squeezes....shit...everything!

These past couple of weeks I've been reading a lot of old posts, progress threads and routines that have helped other members gain. There are two things that I know for sure: 1) Rest is important, and 2) Most good gainers found a routine that worked FOR THEM. One thing I've noticed (and that I have not tried) is stretching AFTER jelqing. A lot of members swear by it, so I figure I give it a try as well.

Also, during these past couple of weeks, I've been thinking about my whole PE career. March 2007 will be my second year of consistent PE. I kept thinking to myself: "What has worked for you in the past, and what did not work for you?" I know IPR seemed to give me good PIs, but hanging just isn't my bag (baby). Recently, I've discovered that edging with cockrings give me awesome expansion and great orgasms and ejaculations.

So, this is what I plan to do for the following month or two:

Warm up in shower
Wet jelq for 5 mins at 50-70% erection level
Moderate manual stretches (mainly SU and SO) for 7-10 mins
ADS for a couple of hours

I know it seems kind of light, but I think that it's what my body needs. I'm going to start to pay more attention to PIs this time around. The above routine will be performed 1 on/2 off.

Also, masturbation/ejaculations will be kept to 3-4 times per week, and will never be done on PE days. Moreover, whenever I masturbate, I will make sure to edge for 30 minutes before I shoot my load and plan to wear a cockring every time I jerk off.

My goal is to be as close to 7 x 5 as possible, and hope to accomplish this by June. For me, it'll be impossible, but for some reason, I still believe that PE works.

Hey...there's a motto to go by: I wanna get to 7 in 2007! Go Q4L!

[remek]

Not again

Really quick, less is more for you!!! You'll see this time around, I know it. I spent several months checking out routines and secrets that the big gainers used, and one thing that most of them used was a form of progressive overload. Meaning, they found what worked and slowly moved up.

We know you don't have a problem with the overload part But try it progressively.

In any regard, I truly admire your dedication. You will gain, I know it. There is no if ands or buts about it. Good luck and find out what works for you!

[quik4life]

Originally Posted by remek

Not again

Really quick, less is more for you!!! You'll see this time around, I know it. I spent several months checking out routines and secrets that the big gainers used, and one thing that most of them used was a form of progressive overload. Meaning, they found what worked and slowly moved up.

We know you don't have a problem with the overload part But try it progressively.

In any regard, I truly admire your dedication. You will gain, I know it. There is no if ands or buts about it. Good luck and find out what works for you!

Thanks remek. I appreciate the encouragement. Really....

I was planning to start my routine on Thursday, but just couldn't make it happen. I'm going to start on Sunday morning. I really think that the morning sessions are going to be better than the evening sessions. I feel that whenever I did evening sessions, the quality of my night wood fell dramatically. But I think that by doing my PE in the mornings, my penis has all day to recover initially from the workout, and then all night to get erections and start repairing itself.

I don't think I'm going to be ADSing for as long as I wanted either. At first, I was going to follow brianrex's routine, as he ADS for the whole day after he PE's in the morning. But, for me, I think 2-4 hours is plenty. If I find it's too little, I'll up the intensity. As you said, remek, it's better for me to start out from nothing and then work my way up to my "growth intensity" and finding the right progressive overload.

I also hope that the switch to stetching AFTER jelqing helps me out too. I could never properly stretch because I would get an erection after about 1-2 minutes. And then when I tried to jelq afterwards, my penis would be too tired or strained and wouldn't stay at the erection level that I needed it to.

I'll report back in a couple of weeks and tell you how the routine's coming a long. I'll probably stick to this routine for a while (2-3 months) but want to wait until I've completed my first 5-7 sessions before I report back to this progress thread.

Let's get to 7 in 2007!

[quik4life]

Forgot to add one thing...

I also plan to start exercising. I'm overweight by about 10 pounds and it's mainly located in my mid-section. I'm not looking to buff up, just lose a bit of the fat I have and tone up the muscle that I already do have.

My routine, including PE is going to look like this:

Day 1: PE
Day 2: HIIT (in the morning, on an empty stomach)
Day 3: 20-30 minutes of chinups, pullups, situps and pushups

It's nothing big, but I'd just thought that it couldn't hurt.