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Old 01-07-2007, 06:43 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Forgot to add one thing...

I also plan to start exercising. I'm overweight by about 10 pounds and it's mainly located in my mid-section. I'm not looking to buff up, just lose a bit of the fat I have and tone up the muscle that I already do have.

My routine, including PE is going to look like this:

Day 1: PE
Day 2: HIIT (in the morning, on an empty stomach)
Day 3: 20-30 minutes of chinups, pullups, situps and pushups

It's nothing big, but I'd just thought that it couldn't hurt.

Good luck with your new regime, quick. It is a good idea, as our health is often overlooked for less important things (e.g. penis size).
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Old 01-08-2007, 08:57 AM   #42 (permalink)
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Hey quik, I don't know what your schedule is or how busy it is. but a good way to lose weight and buff up is working at UPS part-time. I'm an unloader we just lift boxes anywhere from 1 oz to 70lbs and do it quickly, its like aerobic and weight lifting combined. I work the graveyard shift, 4-8 a.m. so it doesn't bother with the rest of my schedule. I lost 30 lbs in three months. Went from 180 (barely within the healthy range for my BMI at 5'11ft tall) to 150 (barely within the healthy range for my BMI, but on the other side) lol. A good amount was gained in muscle though, my arms and legs are pretty cut up, and the only part I still got some fat in is the waist.

Also if you have a diet high in sodium drink lots of water. As this will flush all the salt thats retentioning the water inside your body through the urine.

Pretty common knowledge, but hope it gives you a different perspective.

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Old 01-08-2007, 08:35 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Thanks for the advice legato.

I"ll take it into consideration.
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Old 02-16-2007, 05:45 PM   #44 (permalink)
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I'm back. Again...

I know what everyone's thinking...ALREADY? You're changing your routine ALREADY? What did you do this time....overtrain again?

Well, not really. Some people may think that 1.5 months may be too early to judge whether a routine is working or not, but I disagree. I think the best way to judge whether a PE routine has good potential or not is by the positive PI's that it produces. Moreover, positive PIs from a PE routine should be evident within the first month or so - if they haven't popped up in the first 50 days, then they ain't coming at all.

Everyone's probably saying: Q4L, what are you going to try now? You've tried almost every routine out there!

Member's keep saying that I have incredible persistance and dedication. But the most important thing is too keep learning from your mistakes.

The routine that I am going to try next is dry jelqs. It's basically a variation of Pud's routine that is outlined in this thread. He says to do a 2 on/1 off routine that involves dry jelqing at mid to high erection percentages. Also, he and I both agree that masturbation DOES affect gains. So, I am going to be cutting down my ejaculations to just once a week. Pud says to eliminate them altogether, but I believe that flushing out the pipes once in a while is good for the system. 2 on/1 off hasn't work for me in the past and I remember the one time that I tried dry jelqing 2 days in a row, I overtrained and had to take a couple days off. From my past PE routines, I have learnt that very light ADS is very beneficial, so I will incorporating it into my routine as well.

Here's how my routine will look like:
Mon Dry jelq for 50 reps with 2 hours of very, very light vacuum ADS
Tue Edge for 20-30 mins with a few (~5-10) Ulis thrown in (no ejaculation)
Wed Dry jelq for 50 reps with 2 hours of very, very light vacuum ADS
Thu Edge for 20-30 mins with a few (~5-10) Ulis thrown in (no ejaculation)
Fri Dry jelq for 50 reps with 2 hours of very, very light vacuum ADS
Sat Edge for 20-30 mins with a few (~5-10) Ulis thrown in (ejaculation)
Sun REST

The routine on Mon, Wed and Fri will be followed religiously. The edging will be just a bonus and will be done by feel - if Q4L Jr. is up for it, then I'll edge. Otherwise, it'll just be a rest day.

Here goes nothing.

I wanna get to 7 in 2007!
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Old 02-22-2007, 11:29 AM   #45 (permalink)
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Quick,

I'm with you. If it's not working today, then it's not going to work tomorrow! Good luck on your new routine.
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good luck man, im rootin for ya.
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Old 04-07-2007, 10:39 AM   #47 (permalink)
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I'm back. And changing my routine....AGAIN!

Since Christmas, I've experimented with clamping, cock ring clamping, dry jelqing and pumping. None of it gave me any gains. Sure there was always the temporary pump I got after clamping or when edging with a cockring on, but nothing was ever permanent.

I decided to go back to the drawing board. I needed a clean slate. I've been reading a lot of posts by xenolith, Shiver, MX, sparkyx, remek and a few others. The more and more I read, the more the idea of deconditioning breaks and strategic PE make sense. Basically, IPR. So, that's what I've decided to do (but with a few added twists).

First, I've been reading a lot about heat in PE. If I could go back to the start of my PE career in March 2005, the one thing that I've constantly done half-assed was the warm up. I never really could get the wash cloth that hot and when I did, it never last long. 5 or 6 months ago I started warming up with a rice sock. It provided awesome dry heat that lasted a LOT longer than the washcloth ever could. Only problem is that the temperature you want it to stay at doesn't last longer than 3-5 minutes and you would be forced to put it back into the microwave. During this PE cycle, I'm going to try out IR heat for the first time. I'm going to be warming up with a 150 watt IR bulb for about 15 minutes. I may even try experimenting with having the IR light on while I do my PE routine as well, but won't have the light as close as when warming up. I was amazed to read all the benefits that not only heat could provide, but specifically the benefits of IR heat.

Second, I've also become a proponent of the theory that ejaculation affects gains. I know there is a lot of controversy around this topic, but for me personally, I believe that it does NOT affect gains, but rather the RATE of gains. I think that if one drastically reduces the amount of ejaculation during their PE cycle, the rate of gains will be a lot better. People may ask what evidence I have to support this - but I have none. So, believe what you want, but this is what I believe.

Third, I've been reading a lot about ADS and static stretching and how these methods are proving to be excellent ways to not only gain, but cement the gains as well. I'm going to be increasing my ADS time during this IPR cycle. I have a vacu-extender and plan on wearing it around my waist.

Fourth, I've also been reading a lot about supplements. I've tried Penis Pills in the past, but they didn't work. I tried taking zinc, ZMA and L-Arginine and these supplements DID work for me. They helped increase cum load, but did not provided any gains. Lately, I've been reading a lot about Tongkat Ali. Aside from Viagara and Cialis, this seems to be the next best thing (in terms of natural supplements). It is boasted to increase testoterone production, increase libido, cum load and also help with muscle growth for bodybuilders. I've already ordered a 2 month cycle of TA and plan on supplementing with it during this IPR cycle.

This is what I did my last IPR routine: Warm up with rice sock for 10 mins, vacu hanged for 50 (increase 5 mins each PE workout) with 3 lbs followed by 100 wet jelqs and vacu ADSed for 4 hours. I did this 1 on/2 off for a total of 6 PE sessions, then ADSed for 2 weeks.

This time around, I don't have as much privacy to hang, so I'm going to substitute it with a stretching. I was surprised and encouraged to see in a recent poll that stretching actually provided better length gains than hanging, almost in a 2:1 ratio. I am also going to be switching to jelqing first, and THEN stretching. I personally find that I get a WAY better stretch when I jelq first. If I stretch first, it's almost impossible for me to get erect enough to have a decent jelq session.

I am currently on a decon break of 45 days. I plan on resuming PE on April 27. I will then ADS for about 3 weeks after my 18 day I-Phase. My next decon period will be 2 months.

Warm up (IR Lamp) for 15-20 minutes
Wet Jelqs 50 55 60 65 70 75
SU 1 1 1 1 1 1
L 1 1 1 1 1 1
R 1 1 1 1 1 1
D/D 5 5.5 6 6.5 7 7.5
Ro 1 1 1 1 1 1
InV 5 5.5 6 6.5 7 7.5

Stretches: SU (Straight Up), L (Left), R (Right), D/D (Dual/Double Fulcrum), Ro (Rotary Stretch), InV (Inverted V-Stretch). Jelqs are the actual number of jelqs. Stretch numbers are the stretch times in minutes.

Let's get to 7" in 2007!!!

(Any questions/comments/suggestions are ALWAYS appreciated).
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Hi Quik,
It seem that you are having a quite a struggle with your gaining , but I see that you are still hanging in there. (ha ha) You are right about the stretching ratio 2:1 . I myself have been doing a lot more stretching then hanging, just for the fact that I have strengthen my penis to the point it will not stretch any more with hanging. So for right now I am staying away from hanging for a spell. I still use my hanger in another way. I have a hook that is screwed into the wall, which I atach a rope between the hook and the hanger, then leaning back I tighten everything up with my weight. The penis is pulled straight out with my weight, which I hold that way for 3-4 minutes for five sets.
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Quick,

You might want to add some whey protein to your supplement list.
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Old 04-08-2007, 04:56 PM   #50 (permalink)
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remek:

I was thinking of doing that. Only problem is, it usually upsets my stomach. Someone told me to try Whey Protein Isolate as it is easier on the stomach, but I found it still caused it to gurgle.

The only one I haven't tried yet is Soy protein. Do you know of any others that will not upset the stomach?
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