flynRN's Progress Program

[flynRN]

Well, I have introduced myself, in another forum thread, so I think I am ready to start openly and actively tracking my PE program for informational purposes, and suggestions by those more advanced than me in the subject of PE. I am optomistic and dedicated to this venture/process and look forward to valuable input which will be most appreciated.

I am practicing the "Begginer Program" as described on this website and am currently on my 4th. week into the program as follows:

• Warm-Up(WU) - 10-15min. 104-108*F shower with 1-2min. "heatings" (cup submersion or hot washrag wrapping)

• Frequency - 3X/wk. (Sun., Wed., Fri.) ALL done in the late evening (~9-10:30pm starts)

• Intensity/Exercises - started with 5min. - 10min. 30s. stretches in ALL directions (usual order = O,L,R,U,D {sometimes this varies}); followed with 10min. - 20min. jelq with underhand "O.K." grip with usually a 2min. change to overhand (at 40-60% EQ and 3s. strokes)

• Time - total workout = 30-60min.

• Progression - +1.5-2min./week with 30s. stretches and +2min./wk. jelq

• Modifications - adding Kegles (1s.X10reps followed with 10s.X1rep.) within last half of first set and ALL of second set stretches). Adding V-jelq in week 3 and 4 for 10..advancing...to 30reps. (2s. strokes {R hand, L hand = 1rep.})

• Cooldown(CD) - 1-2min. room air exposure

NOTES: week 1-2 went well with just minor soreness in the L inguinal area after Day2's workout with resolution of discomfort and NO negative PI's whatsoever. Week 3 went well with slight L cuvature noted in shaft after Day2 and resolution noted in Week 4 after emphasis on more R hand force with jelq. Week 4 is going well and I am increasing the streches to 1min. static holds with X3reps. 10s. ON/OFF hard Kegles in both 5min. sets. and jelq is up to 20min. straight now!. I all of this I am noticing significant hand/wrist fatigue after the workouts, but NO negative PI's to report.

CONCERNS:

1. Am I doing enough stretechs (reps./hold time/directions)?
2. What is max. effectiveness jelq time and should I vary up the grips more within the time?
3. Are there other questions I should be asking?

??? Questions ????

Well, thats pretty much it for now, any feedback whould be appreciated especially from moderators/those more advanced in this pursuit than I. Thank you for your time.

....Oh yeah...

STARTING STATS:
Date/time: 8/2/08 / 0930 & 1700
BPSL = 6.500"
BPEL = 6.125"
NBPEL = ~5.5"
EG (below cut) =4.825"

GOALS (Phase 1)
Date/time: <6mth.
#1. NBPEL = 6.000"
#2. EG = 5.000"
BPSL = ~7.000"
BPEL = ~6.500"

[kingpole]

Originally Posted by flynRN

Well, I have introduced myself, in another forum thread, so I think I am ready to start openly and actively tracking my PE program for informational purposes, and suggestions by those more advanced than me in the subject of PE. I am optomistic and dedicated to this venture/process and look forward to valuable input which will be most appreciated.

I am practicing the "Begginer Program" as described on this website and am currently on my 4th. week into the program as follows:

• Warm-Up(WU) - 10-15min. 104-108*F shower with 1-2min. "heatings" (cup submersion or hot washrag wrapping)

• Frequency - 3X/wk. (Sun., Wed., Fri.) ALL done in the late evening (~9-10:30pm starts)

• Intensity/Exercises - started with 5min. - 10min. 30s. stretches in ALL directions (usual order = O,L,R,U,D {sometimes this varies}); followed with 10min. - 20min. jelq with underhand "O.K." grip with usually a 2min. change to overhand (at 40-60% EQ and 3s. strokes)

• Time - total workout = 30-60min.

• Progression - +1.5-2min./week with 30s. stretches and +2min./wk. jelq

• Modifications - adding Kegles (1s.X10reps followed with 10s.X1rep.) within last half of first set and ALL of second set stretches). Adding V-jelq in week 3 and 4 for 10..advancing...to 30reps. (2s. strokes {R hand, L hand = 1rep.})

• Cooldown(CD) - 1-2min. room air exposure

NOTES: week 1-2 went well with just minor soreness in the L inguinal area after Day2's workout with resolution of discomfort and NO negative PI's whatsoever. Week 3 went well with slight L cuvature noted in shaft after Day2 and resolution noted in Week 4 after emphasis on more R hand force with jelq. Week 4 is going well and I am increasing the streches to 1min. static holds with X3reps. 10s. ON/OFF hard Kegles in both 5min. sets. and jelq is up to 20min. straight now!. I all of this I am noticing significant hand/wrist fatigue after the workouts, but NO negative PI's to report.

CONCERNS:

1. Am I doing enough stretechs (reps./hold time/directions)?
2. What is max. effectiveness jelq time and should I vary up the grips more within the time?
3. Are there other questions I should be asking?

??? Questions ????

Well, thats pretty much it for now, any feedback whould be appreciated especially from moderators/those more advanced in this pursuit than I. Thank you for your time.

....Oh yeah...

STARTING STATS:
Date/time: 8/2/08 / 0930 & 1700
BPSL = 6.500"
BPEL = 6.125"
NBPEL = ~5.5"
EG (below cut) =4.825"

GOALS (Phase 1)
Date/time: <6mth.
#1. NBPEL = 6.000"
#2. EG = 5.000"
BPSL = ~7.000"
BPEL = ~6.500"

1: Yes enough stretches, hold your penis out to its farthest extension w/o pain. Hold for 20-30 seconds. Repeat in a diferent direction.
2: Mixing it up is great, jelq slower with a dick your size you can get at least 5 seconds in peer jelq. When it gets bigger and it will! lengthen the time accordingly. 6" 5-10 seconds, 7" 8-15 seconds, 8" 10-20 seconds. Get the picture. Use a very lite grip like your jelqing and egg and youo dont want to break the shell.
3: Why ain't im doing kegels the foundation to PE. Rock hard erections are the precurser to permanent gains. Kegels give you rock hard erections. A really hard dick thats small is better than a big one that is floppy.

I love your attention to detail. that comes from being a nurse. I wish I could do as well.

[flynRN]

Thanks Kingpole for the encouragement. I am trying to pay close attention to the details as you stated because I want to maximize effectiveness and time (time being the most limiting factor in my workout). I hope to keep up the work. I do have some questions that I failed to ask in my first post (which I think may have been more important now that I consider them) and would appreciated input on (especially from the experienced PE'ers out there {>1yr. experience, etc...}). the questions are as follows:

1. How often should one measure and in there a standardized technique for this (equipment etc..) or is just uniformity in the system one uses good enough?
2. For practical, useful EQ/tone is duration held or number of reps in Kegles more important?
3. My wrists/hand strength duration is at its max with 10mins. of stretching (1min. stretches with <2-3s. breaks between directions) and 20mins. total Jelq (with <30s. break at any time(s)). Is there some other method(s) of stretching that I could use? (I'm trying to read more about hanging, ADS's, etc... but am not sure if this is appropriate, I know I can be careful in whatever I do).

Again, thank you for your information and time.

[flynRN]

Today, I measured and am very pleased to report the following results after one month of following the "Beginner Program" listed in the PE main pages. I hope to post (minimally) monthly updates on "Phase 1 / 2" of my goals:

1. BPFSL = 6.500" (+/- ~1/32)
2. BPEL = 6.250"
3. NBPEL = 6.125" !!
4. EG = 4.750 (5.000" at base!)

ALL measurements were taken in the standing, upright position as before in the a.m. at R/A temp. (~74*F) with the original measuring equipment (in same condition[s]) used in initial measuring. EQ was 99%+ for ALL "erect" measurements.
I am a little surprised that BPSL did not really increase more and would like some input/ideas about this result (i.e. - casues, effects, physiological implications, etc...). I also have the same reaction(s) to the EG measurement especially considering that just visually, things "look" larger (FL not measured).
I am contemplating taling a 9-10day break from the program to verify results (will try to measure at least 2X), but I would like some suggestions in this area.
OVERALL IMPRESSION: As I have stated above, I am !!!very pleased!!! with these results and have a positive outlook on this PE process and future endvors in it.

Last Note: To any and all beginners out there. DO NOT get overly zealous in your program and try to push beyond safety limits when starting out. Just think about it, you have time, so go slow and forward, not overdoing it and suffering injury, I persoanally believe just from my experience in this short 4weeks that it is well worth taking your time to do thing the right way and learn the techniques. And GOOD LUCK!! in your journey.

[kingpole]

Originally Posted by flynRN

Thanks Kingpole for the encouragement. I am trying to pay close attention to the details as you stated because I want to maximize effectiveness and time (time being the most limiting factor in my workout). I hope to keep up the work. I do have some questions that I failed to ask in my first post (which I think may have been more important now that I consider them) and would appreciated input on (especially from the experienced PE'ers out there {>1yr. experience, etc...}). the questions are as follows:

1. How often should one measure and in there a standardized technique for this (equipment etc..) or is just uniformity in the system one uses good enough?
2. For practical, useful EQ/tone is duration held or number of reps in Kegles more important?
3. My wrists/hand strength duration is at its max with 10mins. of stretching (1min. stretches with <2-3s. breaks between directions) and 20mins. total Jelq (with <30s. break at any time(s)). Is there some other method(s) of stretching that I could use? (I'm trying to read more about hanging, ADS's, etc... but am not sure if this is appropriate, I know I can be careful in whatever I do).

Again, thank you for your information and time.

1: Once a month, with a ruler on the top of your fully erect penis. The boner you just popped is not your fully erect penis. You have to stimulate for at least 5-10 minutes to get up to full length and girth. Press the ruler as far as tolerated into the pubic bone. Make a mark on the ruler where it penis comes to.
Keep in mind that sometimes your erection will fade a bit when a blunt object is poking into your pubic bone.

2: The longer you hold a kegel the better. I can hold one for 40 minutes, for me its easy because I built up the BC muscle.

3: It is OK to take breaks between stretches and re-warm up with a rice sock while you give your wrist a break. Are your wrist sore from all that tedious charting?

[flynRN]

Thanks for the reply and the information Kingpole. Ha, Ha,..YES, the charting now days has moved from beyond tedious into the purely insane category!!, but actually, I have a reversed muscle in my right wrist (pronator longus I belive if my memory serves me right). It was diagnosed about 1yr. ago, but at first the Dr. (a.k.a. - slice-dice-and rob you MD) didn't know what to do about it but STILL wanted to operate!! Well, I said no... So, I stretch it and continue to look for a more knowledgable MD to work on it.

I have been measuring from the right side and will correct my tehcnique in the future (might continue to note the measurement though for consistency).

Please be sure to see my post in my "Progress Log"!!! I am thrilled to know these results can happen. Also, any input in the questions would be appreciated. Again, thanks for your time and input.

[flynRN]

I apologize for the delay in updateing my "Progress Log" (tried to ealier when writing to JonPop and after I finished the entry the whole @#$ screen when balnk and I lost everything !!..Hopefully that won't happen this time).

Anyway, since my "Measuring entries" entered above, I have taken a planned deconditiong/recovery phase/break in my PE for a total of ~3wks. as follows:

Wk. #1 - NO structured PE AT ALL, BUT lots of lube for the "beef jerky" prevention
Wk. #2 - Kegles (2setsX30reps@1s./rep. 3-4X/wk.) and "random" jai streches (becoming daily towards the end of the wk.)
Wk. #3 - Kegles (1setX3reps@10s/rep with X2reps@1s/rep lead in 5X/wk.) and daily (5-6X@6s./stretch) Jai stretches

Started the "90 Day Program" promoted by JonPop on 9/21/08@~2130 with the following weekly structure:

Week 1 - ALL recommended streches/Kegel combinations and Jelq (without "rotary stretches" in Day 1 because I forgot @#$) at 50% time/rep. guidelines. ADDED downward(DWN) stretch (without Kegels) start @15s. static hold.

Week 2 - same a wk. 1 EXCEPT increasing stretches to full time and Jelq up to full guideline recommendations (start 35reps./ 20reps. and increased by 5reps./session respectively) time. Increase DWN stretch to 30s., and ADDED Uli X1@30-35s. at end of Jelq. Jai stretching now done daily (5-6X/day@6s/rep) now.

Week 3 - same as wk. 2 Except ADDED "Fowfer" (I now have the length to do this !) X1rep.@20min./rep.[the drive home]3X/wk. on workout days.

Week 4 - same as wk. 3 BUT have decrease Jelq to 100reps. "O.K. grip"(use under on 1st. 50rep set and over on 2nd.) and 60reps. V-Jelq do to time constraints and some tired hands!.

*NOTE: I am PEing 3X/wk. (M,W,F) as this fits my schedule best and is about as much as my unit seems to be able to handle at this time.

Well, that's it in a nutshell (no pun intended) and it looks as if my screen is still up !!

CONCERNS

1. Does "90 days" encompass ONLY training days or include off days?
2. What is max. effectiveness jelq time and what is the maximum "break" time during a set and when should I "re-warm"?
3. Should the stretching part of this routine have some progression in it?

??? Questions ????

Well, thats pretty much it for now, any feedback whould be appreciated especially from moderators/those more advanced in this pursuit than I. Thank you for your time.



STARTING STATS:
Date/time: 8/2/08 / 0930 & 1700
BPSL = 6.500"
BPEL = 6.125"
NBPEL = ~5.5"
EG (below cut) =4.825"

NEWSTATS:

1. BPFSL = 6.500" (+/- ~1/32)
2. BPEL = 6.250"
3. NBPEL = 6.125" !!
4. EG = 4.750 (5.000" at base!)

GOALS (Phase 1)
Date/time: <6mth.
#1. NBPEL = 6.000"
#2. EG = 5.000"
BPSL = ~7.000"
BPEL = ~6.500"

[kingpole]

1. Does "90 days" encompass ONLY training days or include off days?
2. What is max. effectiveness jelq time and what is the maximum "break" time during a set and when should I "re-warm"?
3. Should the stretching part of this routine have some progression in it?

??? Questions ????

I think it may include days off.
there is noe set time for breaks it is what ever feels comfotible for you, re-warm anytime.
Yes, you can add to the stretching time.

But the longer your stretching/jelqing gets the longer the warm up and warm down should get.

I do the one day on one day off approach to PE. It is during the rest periods ylour dick does its growing. Not enough rest not enough growth.

[flynRN]

Thanks for your reply Kingpole, I appreciate the support found on/in these forums and the wealth of information within.

I am currently wondering/contemplating the rest cycle in my program. I have posted in the "90 Day Program" thread about the intensity I am getting (possibly over achievement [not unlikely for my type A personality @#$*..]), and if I should have longer rest intervals. I am monitoring PI's BELIEVE ME!! and aside from some real!! "soreness" the next day (which goes away by me next session [usually]) I am having NO negative PI's.?? But still, I don't know if I might be overtraining. I would love some input from people who have completed this program and their thoughts on this matter.
Also, I am wondering if in progression of my stretching, I should consider "bends" (forgot the exact name) @<50%EQ with static holds instead of (or addition) to standard streching in order to target tunica expansion/fiber alignment? Again, thanks to everyone for their help.

[kingpole]

Originally Posted by flynRN

Thanks for your reply Kingpole, I appreciate the support found on/in these forums and the wealth of information within.

I am currently wondering/contemplating the rest cycle in my program. I have posted in the "90 Day Program" thread about the intensity I am getting (possibly over achievement [not unlikely for my type A personality @#$*..]), and if I should have longer rest intervals. I am monitoring PI's BELIEVE ME!! and aside from some real!! "soreness" the next day (which goes away by me next session [usually]) I am having NO negative PI's.?? But still, I don't know if I might be overtraining. I would love some input from people who have completed this program and their thoughts on this matter.
Also, I am wondering if in progression of my stretching, I should consider "bends" (forgot the exact name) @<50%EQ with static holds instead of (or addition) to standard streching in order to target tunica expansion/fiber alignment? Again, thanks to everyone for their help.

Soften the grip just a little bit. And do a one day on one day off. It is during the rest days that your dick grows.