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Old 12-29-2008   #1
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Exclamation Why some men FAIL at PE

Occasionally, I'll get a frustrated client who complains about not making gains with the program. They'll email me with statements like: "the program isn't working for me", "what am I doing wrong?", etc. After reading this, I'll ask them several questions-

"How long have you been doing PE?"

"What are/were your goals?"

"Are you keeping records of what you've been doing?"

And most importantly-

"What kind of routine are you following?"

The average non-satisfied PE subject has been working out for 2 months or more (not very long), has gaining goals of 2 inches in length (which is reasonable), and... (here's the kicker) the routine that they're following is NOTHING like what's outlined in the recommended course (surprise!)

The most common routine that a lot of these clients are doing is "30 minutes of jelq", "hours of hanging”, "clamping" (!), and usually other exercises that aren't even outlined in the course. Some can't even tell me what they've done in detail a few weeks ago (more on that later).

Another commonality among angry clients is that they usually own memberships in several PE pay sites.

There's a pattern here. In order to gain from a PE program, you have to be able to follow instructions. In the basic routine, I give a concise outline of what should be done for the first few months of PE. Yes, the basic routine seems a little boring, but the purpose of the basic routine is to create a foundation of structural strength so that you'll be able to withstand the heavier and much more stressful intensity loads of the more advanced exercises. Follow the routines as outlined (ESPECIALLY if you're a beginner), and you'll do fine.

Another thing... many advanced trainees stop making gains because they fall prey to the "more is better" way of thinking. They'll say to themselves: "Hey, I did 50 reps of 'the squeeze', and my penis is pumped a whole 1/2 inch bigger than ever! If it only took 50 reps to add that 1/2 inch, then with 100 reps, I should be able to add a whole inch!" These are the same individuals that email me privately complaining about severe bruising and swelling.

Once you've had several months to gauge what's accurately working for you, then I recommend experimenting with the exercises, layouts, and routines. Until then though, it's best to follow the routines as outlined.

Here's another thing that falls into the overzealous category: daily measuring. Guys, DO NOT measure yourselves daily! You need to have reference points in which to gauge your progress! Beginners- Measure yourselves no more than once a week. Advanced trainees (more than 2-3 months of PE)- Once every 2 to 3 weeks will do for measuring.

Keep a log of your routines, measurements and your goals. Write EVERYTHING down. Hand positions, lubes used, length of hot soaks, etc. By keeping accurate logs, you'll be able to see what's working (and what isn't), and you'll be able to track your progress with more precision.

The thing that I'm trying to say here is: follow instructions, pace yourselves, and set reasonable, achievable short, midrange, and long term goals.

By doing these simple things you'll be much more apt to succeed in PE (and in other areas of your life for that matter).

Often, after implementing these simple principles into their programs, PE "failures" turn into PE "gainers".

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Great Post Big Al. I can certainly relate to making a few of these errors myself which have certainly frustrated me. Intersting what you say about being registered on several pay sites. You always get a different opinion from every site which leads to a kind of mental over load.
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I agree with sticking with one site and one routine. I made my biggest gains on my own without joining a paysite, but I certainly followed Big Al's basic recommendations here, especially about not overdoing it, especially at the start. I started out very slowly and very methodically, just as Big Al describes above. That way I suffered no injury, no bruising, bleeding or discoloration. The one thing that I would add here is that I did P.E. for my own benefit and to please no one but myself. I did it because I got such great personal satisfaction out of it and still do. It has always been a delightful pleasure for me and never a chore or a burden. The only thing I did differently was I never set goals as far as gains in size were concerned. My only short and long-term goals were the exercises themselves, their duration, and their intensity. That way I never got disappointed or discouraged.
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Advanced routines should only be done 30-40 minutes 2-3 days per week. It is during the rest periods that you grow. Great advice! If yoou think it is going to cause pain it will. Avoid pain! Avoid pain! Avoid Pain!
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this post has given me new found hope. i gave up (i didnt complain mind you) but im gonna start again and try my best to stick at it.
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Good post Al, I think I am still trying to figure out what works for me, I am a hardgainer and I think a lot of it has to do with my schlong being over sensitive. I have cut back on the 90 day routine, doing less reps, to see if my EQ improves. I'm doing 5 on 2 off and then the next week 3, 1, 1. I have made modest gains.
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Good post Al, I think I am still trying to figure out what works for me, I am a hardgainer and I think a lot of it has to do with my schlong being over sensitive. I have cut back on the 90 day routine, doing less reps, to see if my EQ improves. I'm doing 5 on 2 off and then the next week 3, 1, 1. I have made modest gains.
Thanks As long as you're keeping accurate records, fiddle around with the training frequencies and intensity until you find your groove. Once you do, you'll experience the best possible gains.
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My goal was modest, it was 1/4" in lenght and after 3 months I havent gotten it.. And now I have backed down quite a bit on the stretches cus my skin close to the shaft isnt looking too nice when flaccid.. It looks stretched! I really don't know what to do, wheter to to stretches or not.. I am doing PE like every other day but has mostly done jelqs and towel raise.. Any suggestions?! ( Should I just keep pulling my willie?! CUS I want the gains)
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My goal was modest, it was 1/4" in lenght and after 3 months I havent gotten it.. And now I have backed down quite a bit on the stretches cus my skin close to the shaft isnt looking too nice when flaccid.. It looks stretched! I really don't know what to do, wheter to to stretches or not.. I am doing PE like every other day but has mostly done jelqs and towel raise.. Any suggestions?! ( Should I just keep pulling my willie?! CUS I want the gains)
Are you retracting any excess skin before you get your grip? It sounds as if you may not be doing that.

Are you following any particular routine? Are your workouts progressive?
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I'm a newcomer (as far as being in this forum) and reading this post, as well as other post, put things in a totally different perspective. I started this journey only to stop, but not because I didn't believe it worked. I just had other things occupying my time and the hope is to get ol' Pete in shape. I admit that I wanted Pete to be ready to charter the deep blue seas by yesterday, so I was trying to speed up the process. I don't actually know if I've learned my lesson for I haven't had reason to complain. But I did needed insight and I'm glad I decided to join in. Great post.

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