[Banana]

GREAT POST. Really inspiring. Your 1st year routine is exactly the same I am doing right now. I'm also your age. The only difference is that I have started with a bigger size.
I really agree with your theory of "less is better" and I'm going to employ it.
Just some questions:
- in the first year how much time would the stretching take you?
- did you have a bigger flaccid after you did your routine? do you think it is important to have one?
- what grip did you use when jelqing? OK grip? Overhand grip? Both?

I'm asking this because I don't know if I have already got the jelqing technique 100% right. I'm going to try and jelq with a lighter grip even if I am not feeling any blood moving.

[PESG]

Originally Posted by W.M.P.

Now, a question to you Mr. PEsG: The stretching part of your routine, how did it go? By that I mean, how long each stretch in each direction and how many sets of each? What was your total time dedicated to stretching before moving on to the jelquing stage of your sessions?

Originally Posted by Banana

GREAT POST. Really inspiring. Your 1st year routine is exactly the same I am doing right now. I'm also your age. The only difference is that I have started with a bigger size.
I really agree with your theory of "less is better" and I'm going to employ it.
Just some questions:
- in the first year how much time would the stretching take you?
- did you have a bigger flaccid after you did your routine? do you think it is important to have one?
- what grip did you use when jelqing? OK grip? Overhand grip? Both?

I'm asking this because I don't know if I have already got the jelqing technique 100% right. I'm going to try and jelq with a lighter grip even if I am not feeling any blood moving.

I found an easy way to do a consistent stretch from session to session was to use your kegeling as your counter. In my first year, I held each basic stretch for a count of 25 short kegels. That probably equated to around 30 seconds a stretch. I only did each direction ONCE for those 25 kegels. Now, I still only do each direction once, but now I am up to 50 kegels. I wouldn't reccommend going over 30 kegels if you are a beginner. Holding a stretch too long can be bad. With stretching, I was never on a timer. I stretched until I completed my routine. I only ever time my jelqing routine. I was never much into counting jelqs. I believe that quality jelqing is paramount to quanity jelqing. For example, 25 good jelqs are a hell of a lot better than 50 horrible jelqs.

I noticed a bigger fuller flaccid hang after only 2 sessions of PE. PE greatly increases blood flow to your dick region after only a few sessions. I won't say it is necessary to notice a bigger flaccid, but I think it is definitely a good sign that you are progressing and that your dick is responding. Not to mention, that you are doing the exercises correctly.

I believe that a better flaccid hang is also aided by what I described as constantly keeping your dick full. I saw on here that it is called the "Plump" theory. BINGO. Everyone should be employing this theory to their workout. BUT THE FOLLOWING IS IMPORTANT (and I saw someone said this very clearly in the plumping thread) - When you are on a day off of PE, it is probably best to avoid plumping. Days off are hands off unless you are jerking off or having sex. NO PE AT ALL ON DAYS OFF. Let your dick rest and grow. He'll thank you for it. The only thing you should be doing on days off is kegeling - at least 100-150 times.

I started out using an OK grip while jelqing but I found a more overhand grip to be much more comfortable to apply and use. My fingers still form the sign of OK but my hand is more on top of my dick than not.

One other thing about jelqing -- When I started, I was moving quickly. I probably only took 3 seconds to finish a stroke. That changed in a hurry but probably for the wrong reason. I started making my strokes take between 5 and 8 seconds long. The quick jelqing strokes reminded my dick too much of jerking off and he wanted to grow rapidly. Longer strokes help avoid that. I also believe longer jelqs are much more beneficial to shorter ones. It seems logical.

[RIB2211]

I know you've got your own routine that works for you...but I saw on the "Progess Partners Idea" (thread by Bannana) that you said you were looking for some more thickness. Ever think about substituting Compressors instead of Uli's every now and then? Compressors are by far the best girth exercise that I do...you can really see them at work!!!

[PESG]

Originally Posted by RIB2211

I know you've got your own routine that works for you...but I saw on the "Progess Partners Idea" (thread by Bannana) that you said you were looking for some more thickness. Ever think about substituting Compressors instead of Uli's every now and then? Compressors are by far the best girth exercise that I do...you can really see them at work!!!

I'll be looking into it now Thanks!

[Banana]

Very good tips on jelqing. Just one more question, while jelqing do you jelq like this:

"Slide, holding the grip, up to the glans. While holding the grip at the glans, start your other hand at the base. when half way up the shaft, release the grip at the glans and continue the slide up, trapping the blood at the glans and upper shaft." - quoting JonPop

Or as soon as you get to the glans you take your hand off and start with the other hand (not waiting for the other hand to reach mid shaft)?

Sorry if my english might be a little bit confusing sometimes but it is not my main language.

[PESG]

Your English is fine Banana. In fact, it's better than some of my classmates here at college

To answer your question: I hold my first hand at the glans while starting the second hand. I count to 3. When I reach 3, I remove the first hand and return it to the base. I personally believe if you remove the hand too early, you are not accomplishing the basic principal of jelqing. I feel like you have to in some way trap the blood while forcing more in, if that makes sense. I hope I answered that well enough.

[Banana]

Yes I understood and I do my jelqs like that. I can see a bulge in the midshaft from the blood being traped there. I also think this is much more effective and makes a lot more sense, I was just curious.

[remek]

PESuccessGuy: Welcome to The Gym!

Congratulations on your success. Amazing story and great advice. You hit the nail on the head: Less is often more. I always think it's a better idea to start out light and work your way up rather than vice versa.

[Iguana]

Right on guys, heat is VERY important.

The ideal temp range for connective tissue/collagen is from about 104-112 degrees. In this range collage becomes
pliable and easier to stretch. Here's some great information on heat application in physical therapy.

The data showed that the application of low force over a long duration was very effective in producing slow elongation in the viscous elements, resulting in increased residual elongation. Furthermore, elevating tissue temperature and maintaining it prior to applying force was found to cause significantly less tissue damage. Lastly, the lower loads applied at elevated temperatures for prolonged periods were found to produce significantly greater residual elongation.16 The clinical implications of this study are three fold: first, stretches used to increase ROM should be held for prolonged periods; second, warming tissue prior to ROM exercises will cause less tissue damage; and third, stretching should be accompanied with the highest possible therapeutic temperature for prolonged periods to most effectively increase joint mobility.

If you haven't read this article, I highly recommend it: Heat Application in Physiotherapy
It also has some good supporting data on cool downs.

[Hairtrigger]

PEguy, looks like you are living the dream. Everyone will take a good look at what all you have done and be inspired to do the same thing. I think I might start over as well after reading it. Great post and it came at a time where a great deal of people can read it. I have been doing different types of warm up's hoping to get some girth grow going. This is the type of information we need to make even more guys successful at PE. You should be recieving several rep points too.