Achieving results without external devices?

[Igusen10 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Igusen10]

Hello, my question is, is it possible to gain satisfying results without any extender or bath pumps, just by jelqing routines?

Thanks all!

[Pensivepenis Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Pensivepenis]

I really want to know too, last I asked on a thread, didn't get any replies.

[growerJoe Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close growerJoe]

It's because everyone wants you to use the search function. It's like google, for your dick.
The answer is yes by the way

[Dangler Senior Administrator☼ Wizard ☼ White Tiger Award 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Dangler]

Yes.

How much, in what amount, doing 'whatever' PE ; is not defined.

[MarsSpyder Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close MarsSpyder]

Yes

https://www.pegym.com/forums/success...erformers.html

If you look at the thread above, quite a few of the guys who managed to gain a lot didn't use devices. Some of them did and by all accounts it works, but it isn't required.

[Big Al AdministratorPEGym EditorMale Enhancement Coach Rep.PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Big Al]

Many have made excellent gains using only manual techniques or no-device based training.

[HopefulPersistant Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close HopefulPersistant]

Many have made excellent gains using only manual techniques or no-device based training.

When you say excellent, how much are we talking about and in what timeframe?

[Big Al AdministratorPEGym EditorMale Enhancement Coach Rep.PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Big Al]

You can get an idea of what some of our better gainers have accomplished through the following Client Study. Note how a good number of the subjects used manual training methods.

[donkeehote Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close donkeehote]

I am almost 60 days into the JP90 and I am quite happy with results so far. I think the most noticeable difference is the flaccid hang. I was definitely a grower before. I wouldn't necessarily categorize myself as a shower just yet, but the trajectory seems to be that way.

I have not yet measured but plan to do so at the 60 day mark and will report back. It certainly looks bigger if that counts for anything and I do feel much thicker while jelqing and edging. Whether thats placebo effect or whatnot I'll know when I measure this weekend.

[Mavric Member Find all posts View Profile Close Mavric]

In 9 months I went from 6.0 x 4.8 to 6.875 x 5.2 by stretching, jelqing, edging and now started adding squeezes. In the last 30 days I gained a 1/4" in length. I am feeling like I finally have it figured out

[HopefulPersistant Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close HopefulPersistant]

In 9 months I went from 6.0 x 4.8 to 6.875 x 5.2 by stretching, jelqing, edging and now started adding squeezes. In the last 30 days I gained a 1/4" in length. I am feeling like I finally have it figured out

What exactly did you do in those last 30 days to gain 1/4 inch? Is it a matter of increasing intenisity or quantity of reps or changing exercises? Or is it just a matter of longevity? I'm desperate to grow in length.. I do see progress in girth though! Im in my 2nd month of JP90.

[sidneycrosby Senior Member Member of the Month Oct 2016 Find all posts View Profile Close sidneycrosby]

What exactly did you do in those last 30 days to gain 1/4 inch? Is it a matter of increasing intenisity or quantity of reps or changing exercises? Or is it just a matter of longevity? I'm desperate to grow in length.. I do see progress in girth though! Im in my 2nd month of JP90.

Following your PI's is what will lead you to growth. I'm afraid your mindset is where most of us once were, but not where it should be.

[habban Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close habban]

Yes, it works!
I think it depends on how your penis actually works.
If your penis needs heavy workouts you may eventually need some tools to be able to reach the amount of fatigue your penis needs to make further gains. If not, it works good for passive PE at least if you are lazy

All my work is manual actually if you look in my signature. I think i have very good gains for only manual. I have been playing with a pump a little but i don't have any cemented or actual gains i can contribute to pumping, have mostly played with manual exercises which i find works best for me.

[HopefulPersistant Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close HopefulPersistant]

Following your PI's is what will lead you to growth. I'm afraid your mindset is where most of us once were, but not where it should be.

Well, I see positive PI's in EQ and girth gains, but my main goal is length gains, which is zero after 1,5 months of stretching and jelqing. I really take my time warming up (15-20 mins), do extra stretching and slow jelqs increasing reps as Big Al recommended. The point is that I'm wondering when I can expect some lengh gains? Maybe my current routine is not right for length.. but I will finish JP90 (expecting zero length gains tho) and then start advanced manual stretching routines.

[HopefulPersistant Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close HopefulPersistant]

Yes, it works!
I think it depends on how your penis actually works.
If your penis needs heavy workouts you may eventually need some tools to be able to reach the amount of fatigue your penis needs to make further gains. If not, it works good for passive PE at least if you are lazy

All my work is manual actually if you look in my signature. I think i have very good gains for only manual. I have been playing with a pump a little but i don't have any cemented or actual gains i can contribute to pumping, have mostly played with manual exercises which i find works best for me.

Which manual exercises habban? And how long? Some more details please.