Can't make a solid decision.

[Hogama Member Find all posts View Profile Close Hogama]

Hello there,

I have been reading this forum and its threads for a while and I still can't make a decision. I've had the bathmate for a long while but I didn't use it at the beginning. I started using it properl only recently. And during my on and offuse of the bathmate I may have gained like 0.2 in girth, I didn't measure and it's barely noticeable.

Here is my dilemma, I don't have much privacy at home (Uni student, living with family etc.); hence the bathmate was easy to use. However I hear a lot of people that bathmate alone is subpar. So I was thinking of getting sizegenetics and lay off the bathmate for a bit.

I haven't done anything manual because it takes time and privacy, hence I can't really afford to. Can you normally use the sizegenetics under your clothes? Should I stick with my bathmate for now instead? Is hanging something that can be done under clothes?

I personally just want to grow a bit, and in the future make it part of my routine. I am also trying to gain muscle and meditate everyday. But it has to be able to be fit in my daily routine. I am about 5 inches bpel (not impressive I know), with avg length. I think either increasing length or even keep using the bathmate for a fat cock will make me happy. Girls apperantly dig girht more than length, but I am not sure if bathmate alone will give me benefits. So I am like oh well then let's get sizegenetics instead as it will make it longer and length can't hurt right? And if I'm lucky I may get a bit of girth too. And in the future I can come back to the pump. Or I could just stick to the pump and be patient. I just can't seem to make up my mind. Any thoughts?

[Just1AndAHalfPls Member Find all posts View Profile Close Just1AndAHalfPls]

I understand privacy is an issue for you - I would still recommend some manual work, even if its just 10minutes jelqing before you jump in the shower to use the bathmate. Otherwise if you think your family will question that and you can't do it in your room - try the toilet and they'll just think you're on the loo!

My experience with extenders is I felt uncomfortable wearing it around people under my clothing incase it came loose or buldge in my pants or someone accidently touched it lol - but thats just my opinion and how I felt. It might be perfect for you if you spend a lot of time sitting down studying for uni.

Hope I helped best of luck

[Hogama Member Find all posts View Profile Close Hogama]

I understand privacy is an issue for you - I would still recommend some manual work, even if its just 10minutes jelqing before you jump in the shower to use the bathmate. Otherwise if you think your family will question that and you can't do it in your room - try the toilet and they'll just think you're on the loo!

My experience with extenders is I felt uncomfortable wearing it around people under my clothing incase it came loose or buldge in my pants or someone accidently touched it lol - but thats just my opinion and how I felt. It might be perfect for you if you spend a lot of time sitting down studying for uni.

Hope I helped best of luck

Thank you very much for your kind response! So how was your experience with extenders? And I don't wanna rise any suspicions ahahah. I am doing an internship at the moment and my semesters starts soon. I won't be overly active exept commuting here in there. The plus for extenders is that they can be worn under clothes and I can go about my day. But I also understand that it is a learning curve in it does take time.

May I ask what your experience has been so far and what would you recommend in terms of devices? Sometimes having 30 min showers is just lengthy at home ahaha.

[Just1AndAHalfPls Member Find all posts View Profile Close Just1AndAHalfPls]

I use a noose styled Andro Extender, which I find comfortable for short periods of time(1-2 hours). I hear a lot of people on this forum rave about vacuum extenders - so i'd wait to hear from them before making a purchase.

As mentioned in my post above I do wear it under my clothes and do wear it around people, I just prefer not to. As for if they work, yes - but personally I believe the manual work has benefited me much better.

Those are some thoughts to process and wait for a couple others to chime in. Hope that helps

[LeafyGreens Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close LeafyGreens]

Serious question: do you find enough privacy/alone time to masturbate? If so, now you know what to do with that time

If you want it bad enough, you'll find the time and find a way. Be creative. There is ALWAYS a way.

[Hogama Member Find all posts View Profile Close Hogama]

Serious question: do you find enough privacy/alone time to masturbate? If so, now you know what to do with that time

If you want it bad enough, you'll find the time and find a way. Be creative. There is ALWAYS a way.

For your information, I have already quit masturbation, and PMO and I'm on a journey to NoFap. I do use that time for bathmate. I did not ask if there is a way. My question was which route is the most privacy efficient and concealable. Sorry if that wasn't clear. I was just wondering what your individual experiences were.

Privacy is an issue, and unless you know the situation the person's in I wouldn't go as far to say "there is ALWAYS a way". Let me explain, I am in a muslim family (Although personally I do not believe in this retarded religion or any religions for that matter), but I still live with my family. You can't possibly know how aware and careful I have to be, unless you're in a muslim family as well.

I am just seeking for an effective way to go about my self improvement and add something to my reprtoir so to speak.

[Cavalier Retired Super Moderator Member of the Month Feb 2015PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Cavalier]

You can do some manual stretching under the covers when you go to bed.

[LeafyGreens Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close LeafyGreens]

I'll admit I have no idea what it's like to not have my own room with a lock on it. Even when i was a teenager living at home, I always had my own room and could expect to be left alone for 30 minutes when I wanted it (most of the time).

But... my point remains, because my point is true for virtually every problem in the world. There are almost solutions if you apply enough creativity to the problem and want it badly enough.

Some ideas (just to get you thinking of creative solutions):

* Join a gym that has private showers
* Find somewhere super private you can park your car
* Wake up 30 minutes before anyone in your house does and go into the bathroom
* Stay up 30 minutes later than anyone in your house does and go into the bathroom

Find something that works for you and you won't need to choose between bad alternatives. You can do whatever program you like and get whatever kinds of gains you like.

All I'm saying is... don't limit your options to what you can manage to sneak into your schedule while living at home. The world is full of places where you can jelq to your heart's content. You just have to find them ha

[Hogama Member Find all posts View Profile Close Hogama]

Thanks for all the responses guys! Appreciated. I will consider manual stretches and jelqing but I honestly don't feel like they're my cup of tea. I'd be willing to get an extender but I don't know which one is suitable for my case. Hanging can't be very well concealed either. I guess I will just go for a penimaster or sizegenetics.

My question basically was should I stick with the bathmate and if I really have to squeeze in manual exercises? I understand it may work for you, but I find them just tedious and it's not practical to go out of my depths just to add some manual stretches. We're all busy people with different priorities.

[alan020 Member of the Month Jan 13 Find all posts View Profile Close alan020]

If you could even squeeze in 5-10mins of manual work, whether it be after the shower or in bed you will definately notice a difference. I know it is tough, but honestly I thought it was bad when I was in uni, but it gets worse later on in life also - don't expect it to get easier - maybe when you retire it will
Hope you find a way of fitting it in anyway my friend.
Have you considered the Phallosan as an extender if you cannot add in manual work? If you have the spare money it might be good to add it in.

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If you could even squeeze in 5-10mins of manual work, whether it be after the shower or in bed you will definately notice a difference. I know it is tough, but honestly I thought it was bad when I was in uni, but it gets worse later on in life also - don't expect it to get easier - maybe when you retire it will
Hope you find a way of fitting it in anyway my friend.
Have you considered the Phallosan as an extender if you cannot add in manual work? If you have the spare money it might be good to add it in.

Thank you very much for your insight. You're probably right.

So my thoughts on this is to pick one thing and stick with it. My questions are as follows:

is 30 min. hanging enough? I hear people doing these crazy hour long workouts.
Is an extender like size genetics good enough if worked with diligently?
Should I just stick with my bathmatey friend and add like 10 minutes stretches or so to a 20 min pump?
Should I just kill myself? ahahn ah jokes

[AverageDude48 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close AverageDude48]

Good morning, Hogama!

Hey, man! Your size is not much different from mine. I would not say "pathetic" at all. Not bragging, but my dick is absolutely gorgeous. And, I know several women who think that it is absolutely perfect. Not that what they think matters....the only opinion that matters is mine. And, if and when I tell a woman that I have an absoluely gorgeous cock and she actually gets to experience it for real, 99% of them absolutely agree with my assessment. And, they are a little bit impressed with my confidence and enthusiasm. :-)

I am working in this arena again for EQ (erection quality) and if I get a little bit of length and a little bit of girth along this journey then all the better. But, I am really shooting for EQ.

I mean, not to get into TMI, but a woman will notice the difference in erection hardness. And, they LOVE LOVE LOVE a totally rock hard cock. I am telling you this from experience. If you get rock hard and stay rock hard and throb in their hands/mouth/kitty that is all they are going to tell their girl friends...."OMG! He was sooooo freaking hard last night....he was throbbing in my mouth. I could feel him pulsating. I made him cum sooooo hard! He loved it". No where in that "OMG" was anything about size or how long it lasted....just that it was rock hard.

I promise you most girls - being specific here....*MOST* girls - only care about you getting hard and staying hard. With he wussification of American men - in part as evidenced by the statistic that Viagra / Cialis has surpassed weed as the Number 1 recreational drug in America - a firm, rock hard cock is difficult to find these days.

Anyway, mentally - if I might suggest - you maybe could use some work. And, that confidence once you get there (and you will) is going to make you all the more attractive. But, please please please dont tell women that you have a gorgeous cock! LOL! Yes, I do that....but the context is a little bit different there the times that I actually do say something so outrageous as that! :-)

[alan020 Member of the Month Jan 13 Find all posts View Profile Close alan020]

30 mins hanging is not enough to get gains long term.
I am not great with extenders so I will not answer much questions on them. Size genetics is good from what I have heard though.
I think what you mentioned last hit the nail on the head. Stick with your 20mins BM and then add some stretches initially and see how it goes for a few months from there.

[Hogama Member Find all posts View Profile Close Hogama]

Good morning, Hogama!

Hey, man! Your size is not much different from mine. I would not say "pathetic" at all. Not bragging, but my dick is absolutely gorgeous. And, I know several women who think that it is absolutely perfect. Not that what they think matters....the only opinion that matters is mine. And, if and when I tell a woman that I have an absoluely gorgeous cock and she actually gets to experience it for real, 99% of them absolutely agree with my assessment. And, they are a little bit impressed with my confidence and enthusiasm. :-)

I am working in this arena again for EQ (erection quality) and if I get a little bit of length and a little bit of girth along this journey then all the better. But, I am really shooting for EQ.

I mean, not to get into TMI, but a woman will notice the difference in erection hardness. And, they LOVE LOVE LOVE a totally rock hard cock. I am telling you this from experience. If you get rock hard and stay rock hard and throb in their hands/mouth/kitty that is all they are going to tell their girl friends...."OMG! He was sooooo freaking hard last night....he was throbbing in my mouth. I could feel him pulsating. I made him cum sooooo hard! He loved it". No where in that "OMG" was anything about size or how long it lasted....just that it was rock hard.

I promise you most girls - being specific here....*MOST* girls - only care about you getting hard and staying hard. With he wussification of American men - in part as evidenced by the statistic that Viagra / Cialis has surpassed weed as the Number 1 recreational drug in America - a firm, rock hard cock is difficult to find these days.

Anyway, mentally - if I might suggest - you maybe could use some work. And, that confidence once you get there (and you will) is going to make you all the more attractive. But, please please please dont tell women that you have a gorgeous cock! LOL! Yes, I do that....but the context is a little bit different there the times that I actually do say something so outrageous as that! :-)

HAhahaha loved your response. I don't think my cock is too bad. But I am also bulking up a little bit so I want it to be proportionate to my body. Also it is mostly a personal decision to grow it. Yes a bit more size does help I think, but at the same time EQ is important. Also yeah men are pushed to like last hours but there are a lot of girls that cum just as fast as you do too. So yeah I guess you do make a a few fair points.

30 mins hanging is not enough to get gains long term.
I am not great with extenders so I will not answer much questions on them. Size genetics is good from what I have heard though.
I think what you mentioned last hit the nail on the head. Stick with your 20mins BM and then add some stretches initially and see how it goes for a few months from there.

Thank you very much for your input! Greatly appreciated. Yes I will defnitely consider sticking with bathmate and saving money. I was wondering if I could get inputs from people who have used extenders diligently, and know their pros and cons.

[AverageDude48 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close AverageDude48]

Cool deal, man! I would love to have some more length and girth! No doubt. But if this is all that the good Lord had in mind for me, then so be it! I am gonna try...because this work is important and - at worst - helps with overall health. And I totally agree that the desire for more length is totally personal. 100% there with you on that.

So, whatever your goals might be - go for them! I mean, you never know - you just might succeed, right? 100% will not if you don't try. :-) So, really mean this - GOOD LUCK! I am sure that you will get there. We are all here to help where we can!